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Jun 21, 2019 08:55:12   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Harl-Man wrote:
Our son and his family live in California within walking distance from the ocean. There are hundreds of miles of what look to be empty canals that are used to divert rain water from the city street catch basins back into the ocean.
They estimate that over 90 percent of the total rainfall is sent to the ocean. If these canals could catch the rainwater and hold it and then be used for watering the lawns it would be very beneficial to the state.
Thank you for your photo posting!


Thanks Harl-Man - I appreciate your comments. Empty canals or man-made lakes would seem to make sense, but small town budget constraints have pretty much sidelined that option.

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Jun 21, 2019 08:56:52   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
1Feathercrest wrote:
Storm drains are runoff from the streets, NOT sewage drains.


Thanks for looking and commenting 1Feathercrest.

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Jun 21, 2019 08:58:18   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Longshadow wrote:
Good thought, but that would require massive "lakes".


Seems like that's the basic problem - how to store the runoff, and the costs to remove contaminants.

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Jun 21, 2019 12:24:19   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
Very nice, Bill. Beautiful contrast.

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Jun 21, 2019 14:15:37   #
Sylvias Loc: North Yorkshire England
 
Lovely scene and excellent download Bill.

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Jun 21, 2019 14:50:25   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
kpmac wrote:
Very nice, Bill. Beautiful contrast.


Thanks Ken - I appreciate your comments.

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Jun 21, 2019 14:51:48   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Sylvias wrote:
Lovely scene and excellent download Bill.


Thank you Sylvia - I'm glad you liked it. Everything looks better in download.

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Jun 22, 2019 04:56:37   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Longshadow wrote:
STORM drains... Run-off from streets. Same thing that runs into rivers.
They don't treat run-off.
NOT sewage from anyone's house.
BIG difference.


A LOT of locales allow storm overloaded sewage treatment facilities to let the overflow drain into the ocean.
When Pete Wildon ran San Diego, he vehemently opposed secondary or tertiary treatments.
Then the ocean went bad, and we had to wait.
Waited for the condition to be officially recognized. We waited for the diagnosis. We waited for the solution to be devised. We waited for the repair. Then a little more wait for the disposal.
It seems that there was a large pipe taking semi treated sewage and runoff past the drop off.
It broke off. Wind and tides brought a lot of this stuff back towards the shore.
Great discussions per treatment, clean water, sustainable fish, etc happened.
In the end, they fixed the pipe and made it longer.

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Jun 22, 2019 05:42:25   #
J-SPEIGHT Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
yssirk123 wrote:
I liked the contrast of the reddish pipe against the sand and water. There is some controversy about these drains, as they bypass sewage treatment plants and empty the untreated water directly into the ocean.

Looks best in download view.


Beautiful image Bill.

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Jun 22, 2019 07:14:56   #
merrytexan Loc: georgia
 
yssirk123 wrote:
I liked the contrast of the reddish pipe against the sand and water. There is some controversy about these drains, as they bypass sewage treatment plants and empty the untreated water directly into the ocean.

Looks best in download view.


the reddish pipe, blue water, and brown sand all make for a beautiful picture, bill!

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Jun 22, 2019 07:43:05   #
fourg1b2006 Loc: Long Island New York
 
Striking looking image.

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Jun 22, 2019 08:06:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Harry0 wrote:
A LOT of locales allow storm overloaded sewage treatment facilities to let the overflow drain into the ocean.
When Pete Wildon ran San Diego, he vehemently opposed secondary or tertiary treatments.
Then the ocean went bad, and we had to wait.
Waited for the condition to be officially recognized. We waited for the diagnosis. We waited for the solution to be devised. We waited for the repair. Then a little more wait for the disposal.
It seems that there was a large pipe taking semi treated sewage and runoff past the drop off.
It broke off. Wind and tides brought a lot of this stuff back towards the shore.
Great discussions per treatment, clean water, sustainable fish, etc happened.
In the end, they fixed the pipe and made it longer.
A LOT of locales allow storm overloaded sewage tre... (show quote)


Can you explain the phrase "storm overloaded sewage"?
Is that when the treatment plant is flooded by rain and sewage overflows containment?
I can't imagine they would be sending storm run-off into the sanitary sewer system.

I'm not knowledgeable of the ramifications of semi treated sewage. Maybe dumped far enough out it dissipates and does not present a problem?

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Jun 22, 2019 09:26:56   #
Framerman Loc: North of Atlanta Ga
 
I like the shot as well, but it also brings in to focus what we are doing to our ocean and wild life. Do people really think storm drain water is clean? Everything under the sun gets clogged in them. Plus all the oil runoff. I am not a tree huger but common thought should say this is wrong. It reminds me of The Bronx before I 95 was built, sewage pipes running out to our waterways. Someone thought that was a good idea.
yssirk123 I did not have any intention of saying anything bad about your photo, your shot is great just I saw something else within it. Do not let this stop you from posting fine works from what you see.

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Jun 22, 2019 09:49:07   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Harry0 wrote:
A LOT of locales allow storm overloaded sewage treatment facilities to let the overflow drain into the ocean.
When Pete Wildon ran San Diego, he vehemently opposed secondary or tertiary treatments.
Then the ocean went bad, and we had to wait.
Waited for the condition to be officially recognized. We waited for the diagnosis. We waited for the solution to be devised. We waited for the repair. Then a little more wait for the disposal.
It seems that there was a large pipe taking semi treated sewage and runoff past the drop off.
It broke off. Wind and tides brought a lot of this stuff back towards the shore.
Great discussions per treatment, clean water, sustainable fish, etc happened.
In the end, they fixed the pipe and made it longer.
A LOT of locales allow storm overloaded sewage tre... (show quote)


Thanks Harry0 for looking, and also for your comments.

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Jun 22, 2019 09:49:52   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
yssirk123 wrote:
I liked the contrast of the reddish pipe against the sand and water. There is some controversy about these drains, as they bypass sewage treatment plants and empty the untreated water directly into the ocean.

Looks best in download view.


Surely only storm water, not sewage??

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