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Jun 13, 2019 16:02:53   #
tinusbum Loc: east texas
 
i dont think we ever decided for sure if these were lacewing or something else.i still think lacewing


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Jun 13, 2019 16:51:34   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
tinusbum wrote:
i dont think we ever decided for sure if these were lacewing or something else.i still think lacewing


There is a problem with width of head to thorax that says these are Owlflies. The mouthparts have prominent maxilla, as do Owlflies.
The overall look of these is a stocky version of a lacewing.
That says Owlflies.
From my college text.
Bill


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Jun 13, 2019 17:14:03   #
napabob Loc: Napa CA
 
nice shooting either way, more hair then any shots I have of lacewing larva, and the multiple eggs on stalk thang........not to question Bill but did you send em to bug guide?

and my lacewing eggs only have two dots showing through

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Jun 13, 2019 17:20:03   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
Nice set.

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Jun 13, 2019 17:32:12   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
napabob wrote:
nice shooting either way, more hair then any shots I have of lacewing larva, and the multiple eggs on stalk thang........not to question Bill but did you send em to bug guide?

and my lacewing eggs only have two dots showing through


These are a curiosity to me, too.
Bill
And I don't subscribe to bug guide.
Anyone?

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Jun 13, 2019 17:34:13   #
tinusbum Loc: east texas
 
newtoyou wrote:
There is a problem with width of head to thorax that says these are Owlflies. The mouthparts have prominent maxilla, as do Owlflies.
The overall look of these is a stocky version of a lacewing.
That says Owlflies.
From my college text.
Bill


https://bugguide.net/node/view/576822 this looks the eggs

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Jun 13, 2019 18:04:27   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
Then it is from a species of green lacewing, and from the looks of the link from BG they are of a kind where the larvae carry debris on their back. That makes sense since the hatchling larvae have extra long curly hairs.

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Jun 13, 2019 18:13:58   #
napabob Loc: Napa CA
 
tinusbum wrote:
https://bugguide.net/node/view/576822 this looks the eggs


the last entry on bug guide: Unidentified Debris-Carrying Larvae

hmmmmmmm

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Jun 14, 2019 08:58:10   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Impressive find and impressive images.

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Jun 14, 2019 09:23:53   #
rwilson1942 Loc: Houston, TX
 

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Jun 15, 2019 09:12:35   #
tinusbum Loc: east texas
 
if i find another bunch i will keep a couple until i know for sure

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Jun 17, 2019 13:32:06   #
tinusbum Loc: east texas
 
looks like this? https://bugguide.net/node/view/1310233

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Jun 17, 2019 14:47:48   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
tinusbum wrote:


Too many points for lacewing to argue. These still look a bit beefier than the little beasties hiding in flowers.
There are a lot of this form of Neuropteran larva living on tree trunks with lichens and moss. They use debris for camo and are predacious.
I lived at the edge of a damp woodland and it was all mossy and shady.
Mushrooms, good wild eating were there. Some good, some delicious.
Look for insects?
Get a chair, sit and watch. Look for movement. No hurry. Camera ready?
A cold one to help the wait.😋
Bill

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Jun 17, 2019 14:56:54   #
tinusbum Loc: east texas
 
Look for insects?
Get a chair, sit and watch. Look for movement. No hurry. Camera ready?
A cold one to help the wait.😋
Bill[/quote]

yes,one reason i find so many is i move very slow.every time i move faster i scare away a potential target

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Jun 17, 2019 15:14:18   #
napabob Loc: Napa CA
 
newtoyou wrote:
Too many points for lacewing to argue. These still look a bit beefier than the little beasties hiding in flowers.
There are a lot of this form of Neuropteran larva living on tree trunks with lichens and moss. They use debris for camo and are predacious.
I lived at the edge of a damp woodland and it was all mossy and shady.
Mushrooms, good wild eating were there. Some good, some delicious.
Look for insects?
Get a chair, sit and watch. Look for movement. No hurry. Camera ready?
A cold one to help the wait.😋
Bill
Too many points for lacewing to argue. These still... (show quote)


a-yup, me too............after checking where the sun is and how its going to affect the shot, I put on kneepads as I often end up kneeling anyway, and just chill and watch for movement, and something out of place.........I also lift branches, stems, leaves and look underneath while noticing any holes chewed edges etc

for spiders the web will often give their location away, orbs usually have a trigger line running to where they are hiding under leaves, in likely places I'll scour the ground looking for past victims, several times they've pointed to jumpers nest above.............

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