Baxter2

Would a begginer be better off with a more expensive canon t7i or the t7 which.i already have wich will be the better armature model

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

T7i is, as a rule for their nomenclature, better in options/capabilities than the T7.
Of the two, I would definitely get the T7i.

EDIT: You should be able to do a compare at B&H photo.

(I'm still shooting with my T1i.)

Baxter2

Thank you

DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area

Here are the trade-offs:
- T7i (camera + kit lens) $700 T7 (camera + kit lens) $400
- T7i has more features
- T7i has more complexity

The T7i is a better camera in the long run, IF you stick with photography. You have to ask yourself, "How committed am I?"

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Yup, I still vote for the T7i -

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/compare/Canon_Rebel_T7_vs_Canon_Rebel_T7i/BHitems/1461734-REG_1318769-REG

Silverman Loc: Michigan

Have you Considered a Nikon DSLR? I myself as a Beginner, 3 years ago, did considerable research on many Brands and Models, reading reviews and watching U tube reviews online. I finally chose the Nikon D3300 DX Crop Sensor Camera. I have enjoyed Learning Photography with this Camera, easy to learn, easy to operate and has produced many fine images. I now consider myself to be an Advanced Beginner, because I am still learning. Not sure I will reach the Professional level, as I am now almost 69 years old, not having the energy I had years ago, although I am retired, so I do have the time, I hope, to continue to Progress in my Photography Hobby.

jdub82 Loc: Northern California

If I understood correctly from your post that you already own a T7, I would start there and work with the capabilities of the camera you have. Though it is entry level, it is capable of producing very good pictures, and is a camera you can learn and grow using. If you want to upgrade your equipment now, you could start by purchasing additional lenses, which would work on any Canon APS-C camera you purchased in the future. However, if you have not yet purchased a camera, I would highly recommend going with the T7i or 77D over the T7. They both offer more features, and much more advanced processor, as well as a better auto-focus system. You will have to pay more. Both the T7i and the 77D are selling right now for $649.00, brand new body only. (The 77D has some more advanced features over the T7i, and is a great buy currently at $649.00.)

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Wrong quote???

jdub82 Loc: Northern California

Oops! corrected.

dan59019 Loc: Washington Mi

Take a look at the SL3

gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast

As a beginner I stuck with cheaper cameras until I figured out what I needed to make better photos. I could trot around on an old nag but definitely would have fallen off a spirited race horse.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

There's a lot of difference between a T7 (EOS 2000D) and a T7i (EOS 800D).

The T7i is a more fully capable and up-to-date model, but it can be used pretty simply, with a lot of automation available to help out a beginner.

They are both 24MP APS-C format Canon DSLRs. And they both use a penta-mirror instead of a pentaprism, to keep cost and weight down. They also both have approx. 95% coverage viewfinders with roughly .80X magnification. And they both have the same shutter speed range ( and flash sync speed. But that's about where the similarities end.

The T7 uses a Digic 4 processor, which is now several generations old. T7i uses a Digic 7 processor to support faster continuous shooting rates (6 frames/sec vs 3 frames/sec in T7), higher performance autofocus, Touch Screen controls and more. Another important factor is that the newer processor also allows higher ISOs for more versatility shooting in low light situations without flash.

The native ISO range of the T7 is 100 to 6400. In comparison, the T7i's native ISO range is 100 to 25600. That's two full stops higher. (I'll leave it to you to judge if the highest ISOs produce acceptable images. I've used as high as ISO 16000 on my Canon 7D Mark IIs.)

The T7 has a simple 9-point AF system similar to what was introduced on the Canon 20D, around 15 years ago. The T7i uses a "modern" 45-point AF system, similar to what's was introduced in the 80D and is now also used in the 77D and full frame 6D Mark II. In addition, the T7i has Canon's Dual Pixel Autofocus (DPAF) in Live View, as was introduced on the 70D and which is much faster than the previous contrast detection method such as is still used on the T7.

The T7i's autofocus system is "f/8 capable", which means that more teleconverter/lens combinations can be used than with the T7's "f/5.6 limited" AF system.

The T7i has an articulated rear LCD screen with Touch Screen control and 1 million pixel resolution. The T7's screen is 900K pixel, is not articulated and doesn't have Touch control.

The T7i uses a larger battery that allows it to take approx. 20% more shots per charge.

The T7i has more advanced WiFi connectivity that allows things such as remote control via a smart phone, which the T7 cannot do with its more basic WiFi.

Both cameras can shoot up to HD quality video. The T7i has built in digital stabilization for video. The T7 doesn't.

The T7i can use both Canon dedicated external/accessory flashes and a wide variety of third party flashes, with a universal type of hot shoe. The T7 has a unique hot shoe design that limits it to compatibility only with Canon flashes. The built-in flash of the T7i is also a bit more powerful than the T7's. (Although, to be brutally honest, the built in flashes on all DSLRs suck... They're slow to recycle and weak, in a bad place for redeye and ugly shadows, and they drain the camera's battery very rapidly.)

About the only ways the T7 might be considered superior to T7i are that 1. it's cheaper and 2. it weighs a little less.

Finally, in a two-lens kit the T7 is usually sold with the EF-S 18-55mm IS "II" lens and EF 75-300mm "III" lenses.

A two-lens kit with the T7i usually includes the faster/quieter focusing EF-S 18-55mm IS "STM" lens and the EF-S 55-250mm IS STM telephoto zoom. The latter lens is superior in every possible way to the EF 75-300mm "III" (Canon's cheapest telephotos zoom). The EF-S 55-250mm IS STM is faster/quieter focusing (STM "stepper motor" versus "micro motor"), it has image stabilization (IS), it's closer focusing AND it has much better image quality, especially at the 250mm end of the zoom range.

A T7 with EF-S 18-55mm IS "II" and EF 75-300mm "III" lenses costs $500.

A T7i with EF-S 18-55mm IS STM and EF-S 55-250mm IS STM lenses costs $850.

A T7i body-only costs $650.

T7 isn't offered body only, with EF-S 18-55mm IS "II" only it costs $400.

If the money isn't a concern, get the T7i. It's an especially good value if bought with the two lens it mentioned above (if bought separately, total cost would be $1200).

If money is a concern or simply because one wants the more basic camera, the T7 and it's lenses are pretty capable and a very good value. Nuthin' fancy, but for $400 to $500 you get more capable camera and lenses than you could buy for $3000 or $4000 not-too-many-years ago.

But T7i would give you "more room to grow" in the years to come. While a beginner can use it just as simply and automatically as the T7... There are more advanced techniques possible with the T7i, that will be difficult or impossible with the T7.

Some more detailed comparisons:

https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T7-vs-Canon-EOS-Rebel-T7i
https://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/canon/t7i/vs/canon/t7/
https://www.apotelyt.com/compare-camera/canon-t7-vs-canon-t7i
https://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/canon-rebel-t7-vs-t7i/

EDIT: I just noticed that someone else mentioned the Canon SL2 or SL3, and I agree that it's also worth consideration. Those are sort of "in between" the T7 and the T7i, both in features and in price. The SL2/SL3 (minor differences between them) are the most compact and lightweight DSLRs on the market, but they have much of the functionality and features of the T7i. What they share with the T7 is primarily it's simpler autofocus system. There's also the Canon 77D, which (in spite of its name) is basically a T7i with controls and LSD displays more similar to 80D.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/compare/Canon_Rebel_T7i_vs_Canon_Rebel_T7_vs_Canon_Rebel_SL2_vs_Canon_Rebel_SL3/BHitems/1318769-REG_1461735-REG_1346763-REG_1473087-REG

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

T7i is the better camera if you can afford it.
More features to grow into

BuckeyeBilly Loc: St. Petersburg, FL

T7i, but you should also look at other cameras as well. For instance,

https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T7i-vs-Pentax-K-70

Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

Wait for the Canon 90D to become available - -
Then, when the price drops - - Get the 80D !!