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May 19, 2019 15:19:53   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I've been watching a youtube channel created by photographer Thomas Heaton lately. He does landscapes and one of his points is that we should all start using longer lenses when we are shooting landscapes. So, when I came across this scene this morning, I decided that I would try a comparison. I liked that the stream stretches into the distance; but with the wide shot, you can't really see much detail in the distance. (42mm). I then zoomed to 92mm and, though I lost the cloud in the sky, I can now see into the distance much better. Which is my favorite? I like them both. They both have that nice morning color; but the wider shot has more natural framing and that cloud. I thought I would include both shots in this thread. Do you find that you use longer lenses in your landscapes? Feel free to include examples of your work in this thread.
Erich

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May 19, 2019 15:41:02   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Great subject, Erich! Often there are topics in main discussion about which lens to use for a specific situation. The more folks learn to see beyond the "obvious," the better IMO.

I do prefer your wider view for the reasons you mentioned: the natural framing and the cloud.

A few years ago I read an article in Outdoor Photographer magazine about using telephoto lenses for landscapes. This was shot in the Cascade Mountains at 100 mm (equiv. 160 mm FF). I never did decide if I liked the depth of field and for some reason, I only took the one shot


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May 19, 2019 18:22:29   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Great subject, Erich! Often there are topics in main discussion about which lens to use for a specific situation. The more folks learn to see beyond the "obvious," the better IMO.

I do prefer your wider view for the reasons you mentioned: the natural framing and the cloud.

A few years ago I read an article in Outdoor Photographer magazine about using telephoto lenses for landscapes. This was shot in the Cascade Mountains at 100 mm (equiv. 160 mm FF). I never did decide if I liked the depth of field and for some reason, I only took the one shot
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Thanks for posting your example, Linda. It's a good one. We know that there are mountains in the background; but your selective focus keeps us mainly viewing the flowers. Interesting that you chose to use the inherent shallow dof with a long lens to direct the viewer's attention. Nice photo.
Erich

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May 19, 2019 18:33:30   #
L-Fox
 
ebrunner wrote:
I've been watching a youtube channel created by photographer Thomas Heaton lately. He does landscapes and one of his points is that we should all start using longer lenses when we are shooting landscapes. So, when I came across this scene this morning, I decided that I would try a comparison. I liked that the stream stretches into the distance; but with the wide shot, you can't really see much detail in the distance. (42mm). I then zoomed to 92mm and, though I lost the cloud in the sky, I can now see into the distance much better. Which is my favorite? I like them both. They both have that nice morning color; but the wider shot has more natural framing and that cloud. I thought I would include both shots in this thread. Do you find that you use longer lenses in your landscapes? Feel free to include examples of your work in this thread.
Erich
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I like them both also. The lens and everything else is always up for grabs until the shutter opens.

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May 19, 2019 19:34:26   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
l-fox wrote:
I like them both also. The lens and everything else is always up for grabs until the shutter opens.


I love your response....it should be on a T-Shirt!
Erich

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May 19, 2019 21:19:23   #
MattPhox Loc: Rhode Island
 
I like them both.

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May 19, 2019 22:47:56   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
MattPhox wrote:
I like them both.


I think that the light was just about perfect when I took the shot. It was also fleeting. Minutes after the shot, the sun went behind the clouds and flat was the general theme. Funny how that works.
Erich

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May 19, 2019 23:05:04   #
MattPhox Loc: Rhode Island
 
ebrunner wrote:
I think that the light was just about perfect when I took the shot. It was also fleeting. Minutes after the shot, the sun went behind the clouds and flat was the general theme. Funny how that works.
Erich


I agree with you about the light.

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May 20, 2019 06:55:35   #
Cwilson341 Loc: Central Florida
 
I've gone back and forth on these several times now. I definitely prefer the wide view. To me it is a landscape! The water with reflections catches my eye and I then move on to the distant trees and the cloud blessed sky. I find myself inclined to follow that route multiple times.

The tighter shot is still very nice and even more so if not compared to the wide view. I tend to follow the water immediately and there is not much incentive to explore once that is done.

Either way, I've enjoyed this little excursion into the wild this morning!

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May 20, 2019 08:12:05   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
I’m torn--I like the inclusion of the cloud, but I also appreciate the depth showing the creek in the longer lens version. So, tossup for me.

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May 20, 2019 09:14:27   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
ebrunner wrote:
I've been watching a youtube channel created by photographer Thomas Heaton lately. He does landscapes and one of his points is that we should all start using longer lenses when we are shooting landscapes. So, when I came across this scene this morning, I decided that I would try a comparison. I liked that the stream stretches into the distance; but with the wide shot, you can't really see much detail in the distance. (42mm). I then zoomed to 92mm and, though I lost the cloud in the sky, I can now see into the distance much better. Which is my favorite? I like them both. They both have that nice morning color; but the wider shot has more natural framing and that cloud. I thought I would include both shots in this thread. Do you find that you use longer lenses in your landscapes? Feel free to include examples of your work in this thread.
Erich
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Erich, I wonder if the photographer you were watching defined how he would use a longer lens.
I personally like using a longer lens, when conditions allow, as it lessens the impact of distortion and size relationships are maintained. This image is from 6 or 7 separate ones stitched in post. The lens used was an 85mm. If for instance this was a scene taken of a distant mountainous view more than one row would have been used.
https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2018/12/4/602505-plst_103118_crp_dsw.jpg

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May 20, 2019 10:16:13   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Rich1939 wrote:
... If for instance this was a scene taken of a distant mountainous view more than one row would have been used.
https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2018/12/4/602505-plst_103118_crp_dsw.jpg
That's a beauty, Rich!

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May 20, 2019 10:59:15   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Thank you Linda.

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May 20, 2019 11:58:01   #
kenievans Loc: Dallas
 
Erich think these are an example of your discussion but please correct me if I am wrong. I took these a couple of weeks ago in New Mexico. The first was shot at 18mm and the second at 44mm both within a few seconds of each other. At this angle I don't think it benefited from the longer lens. I think it loses the sense of scale. In your two pictures I prefer the longer lens. Maybe the subject and scale should be considered as well.


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May 20, 2019 13:19:55   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
In my experience, we humans (maybe dogs, monkeys, and other creatures too) respond to the view somewhat as if we were in the position. In these examples, the wide lens literally "distances," seems more "contemplative." With the tele, my feet could be in the water, we are more involved. This involvement could be physical, i.e., just "closer," as in your shot, or esthetic, forcing us to focus on a detail we might see as intensively in normal vision.


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