Wine Bottle & Glass
May 8, 2019 17:54:48 #
Everyday I work at using lights more effectively. This was todays project.
Not sure how many members are interested in the setup. Below is a brief description and pictures to follow.
I set the wine bottle and glass on a 24 x 24 piece of frosted glass on an upside down table. Under the glass, aiming up was a speedlight lighting the base. Used another light from behind to create the rim light for the bottle and glass. Snapped the first shot. A second shot was made with black paper wrapped around the same speed light forming a snoot aiming up under the glass creating the circle under the bottle and glass. A third shot using a flashlight for the label. A fourth shot was taken lighting the top of the bottle also using a flashlight. The 4 photos were then taken into photoshop using stacks. The second shot, now layer #2, was turned to Soft Light. I added masks to layer 3&4 and opened just the areas for the label and top of the bottle. Added the framing for final output.
Not sure how many members are interested in the setup. Below is a brief description and pictures to follow.
I set the wine bottle and glass on a 24 x 24 piece of frosted glass on an upside down table. Under the glass, aiming up was a speedlight lighting the base. Used another light from behind to create the rim light for the bottle and glass. Snapped the first shot. A second shot was made with black paper wrapped around the same speed light forming a snoot aiming up under the glass creating the circle under the bottle and glass. A third shot using a flashlight for the label. A fourth shot was taken lighting the top of the bottle also using a flashlight. The 4 photos were then taken into photoshop using stacks. The second shot, now layer #2, was turned to Soft Light. I added masks to layer 3&4 and opened just the areas for the label and top of the bottle. Added the framing for final output.
May 8, 2019 18:03:35 #
Quite a bit of work, Jim. I surely paid off in a very attractive photograph.
Could you tell me the focal length of the lens you used, and where it was located, vertically, with respect to the wine bottle?
--Bob
Could you tell me the focal length of the lens you used, and where it was located, vertically, with respect to the wine bottle?
--Bob
Jim-Pops wrote:
Everyday I work at using lights more effectively. ... (show quote)
May 8, 2019 18:23:05 #
rmalarz wrote:
Quite a bit of work, Jim. I surely paid off in a very attractive photograph.
Could you tell me the focal length of the lens you used, and where it was located, vertically, with respect to the wine bottle?
--Bob
Could you tell me the focal length of the lens you used, and where it was located, vertically, with respect to the wine bottle?
--Bob
You can see the camera in the first set up shot. I just went in and looked it is vertical to the top of the wine label 2' in front of the bottle aimed down to the middle of the label.
The bottle is 11" from the backdrop. The real trick is the black paper's position on the scrim letting the light wrap around the outside edges.
It's a beautiful effect for glass objects.
The lens is a Nikon 24-70 mm with aperture set at f/7.1
May 8, 2019 18:43:33 #
Jim, there appears to be a bit of parallax in that the wine bottle seems to lean a bit inward towards the bottom. The glass seems to lean very slightly inwards towards the bottom, as well.
--Bob
--Bob
Jim-Pops wrote:
You can see the camera in the first set up shot. I just went in and looked it is vertical to the top of the wine label 2' in front of the bottle aimed down to the middle of the label.
The bottle is 11" from the backdrop. The real trick is the black paper's position on the scrim letting the light wrap around the outside edges.
It's a beautiful effect for glass objects.
The lens is a Nikon 24-70 mm with aperture set at f/7.1
The bottle is 11" from the backdrop. The real trick is the black paper's position on the scrim letting the light wrap around the outside edges.
It's a beautiful effect for glass objects.
The lens is a Nikon 24-70 mm with aperture set at f/7.1
May 8, 2019 19:00:13 #
I did noticed a bit of that too. I used lens correction and it was worse. The last time I did some of this type of work I use a 50 mm prime. I think it does a better job. I posed this one to see the comments and then will be doing another one with the wine glass full and possibly some additional props. I will then try my 50 mm and see how it goes. Thanks for your comments. 
May 9, 2019 10:34:50 #
May 17, 2019 09:10:10 #
I also noticed immediately that things seemed to be leaning oddly. Nice lighting job.
May 17, 2019 14:50:02 #
Quite a bit of work with a very nice result with the lighting. Interesting that you would have a lens distortion with a longer lens like that. I would have guessed a wider angle lens did that.
May 17, 2019 15:08:04 #
Nightski wrote:
Quite a bit of work with a very nice result with the lighting. Interesting that you would have a lens distortion with a longer lens like that. I would have guessed a wider angle lens did that.
I just don't know what caused it. I have a future shot in mind when I do it I will try several lenses and see if I can figure it out.🙄
May 21, 2019 17:55:18 #
Your tones are great. I agree about the slants, and wonder if perhaps a bit more light on part of the label would fit into your goal of tone richness.
I really wonder, however, if that is Vampire Wine, as the bottle casts no reflection. And, does the wine glass know it is in danger? 😊
I really wonder, however, if that is Vampire Wine, as the bottle casts no reflection. And, does the wine glass know it is in danger? 😊
May 21, 2019 18:53:43 #
artBob wrote:
Your tones are great. I agree about the slants, and wonder if perhaps a bit more light on part of the label would fit into your goal of tone richness.
I really wonder, however, if that is Vampire Wine, as the bottle casts no reflection. And, does the wine glass know it is in danger? 😊
I really wonder, however, if that is Vampire Wine, as the bottle casts no reflection. And, does the wine glass know it is in danger? 😊
Thanks for your comment and because of it I see I succeeded to achieve the shot without the normal reflections. I have an idea for another shoot with this bottle and a different glass. I just haven't gotten around to setting it up again when I do I will use a different lens and see if I can get rid of the slant, not sure where it comes from.
May 21, 2019 20:15:21 #
If you have Photoshop, and likely in other programs, you can Edit/Transform/Skew, and while using a superimposed Grid, straighten up them suckers!
Jul 16, 2019 18:05:32 #
This is an old thread so I don't know if anyone is still on it.
Critique: The bottle foreshortened and seem to be leaning and there is a bit of distortion. The camera should be parallel to vertical objects or the issue dealt with in post-processing.
On shots of bottles, it its best to use a slightly shorter focal length and work in a little closer to capture the roundness of the item. When you are too far away and the lens is too long, you lose dimension and flatten out the subject.
The empty glass doesn't do anythg for the theme. Fill it with wine and transilluminate the liquid with a small reflector, made of aluminium foil and hidden behind the glass.
Critique: The bottle foreshortened and seem to be leaning and there is a bit of distortion. The camera should be parallel to vertical objects or the issue dealt with in post-processing.
On shots of bottles, it its best to use a slightly shorter focal length and work in a little closer to capture the roundness of the item. When you are too far away and the lens is too long, you lose dimension and flatten out the subject.
The empty glass doesn't do anythg for the theme. Fill it with wine and transilluminate the liquid with a small reflector, made of aluminium foil and hidden behind the glass.
Jul 16, 2019 20:58:07 #
Thank you for sharing your thoughts E.L. I have been working on refining the shot. I should have something next week to share. I will be trying your suggestions.
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