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May 5, 2019 09:46:32   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Situation dependent tool. I'm not much of a bracket shooter (rarely, but when I want it - I want it) but in a run-n-gun situation, where on the move, focus and lighting challenges, little time for settings, more potentially good captures per click, another tool in the box. One can imagine quite a few situations where it is a useful function, with no shame attached.

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May 5, 2019 09:50:47   #
DesRose Loc: Phoenix, Arizona
 
rmalarz wrote:
As I've seen quoted before, "bracketing in for people who don't know how to expose properly".
--Bob


I know alot of people feel offended by Bob's quote. I am not. If people do not know how to use manual exposure, then it IS easier to do exposure bracketing and pick the photo with best exposure/capture. I would also add, "or for lazy people or people in a rush." When only 1 photo is truly needed to capture full dynamic range with minimal noise, it is EASIER/FASTER to just do a 3 bracket exposure instead of putting camera on manual mode and adjusting dials accordingly to get the best exposure from 1 shot. I am often guilty of this myself especially if out shooting with a group and have to move quickly. It's not as if we are shooting film. It's easy to delete any unwanted photos while saving the 'keepers'.

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May 5, 2019 09:54:17   #
bleirer
 
larryepage wrote:
There can be multiple reasons for bracketing. For instance, before I started shooting in raw, I would sometimes turn bracketing on because I wasn't confident that I could meter a scene just exactly right and wanted to have some insurance toward getting things right. When I was learning to use the various metering modes, I would use bracketing to help myself learn and understand how each mode worked and how to apply it correctly. Then I discovered HDR photography, and bracketing is a fundamental step in accomplishing that process.

Since I've been using raw to capture and save images, I've not been bracketing nearly as much. It seems to me that HDR works somewhat differently with raw and with JPEGs, and I haven't fully figured out the differences yet in order to get pleasing results. The wider dynamic range available with raw capture seem to make HDR less necessary. Finally, I've not been able to do much railroad photography lately, which is where I seem to encounter my highest dynamic range situations.

A lot of folks here follow a practice called ETTR, or Expose to the Right, which is a way to capture maximum information, usually without having to use bracketing. I've been using a new metering mode called Highlight Weighted Metering, which accomplishes most of ETTR with less work.

To summarize, there are a number of reasons that you might want to bracket your photographic exposures. You just have to figure out whether and why you might want to do so.
There can be multiple reasons for bracketing. For... (show quote)


I think Canon calls that same metering idea highlight tone priority, but if you dig into what it is doing, it is just taking control of your exposure compensation via ISO to prevent blown highlights. It can fight you if you are trying to push to the right and you find you get unexpected results.

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May 5, 2019 10:01:13   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
Mathematically, each EV stop shifts one bit the sensor readout.

So, in you have a 14 bit sensor, and do +/- 1 EV bracketing, in you will effectively read 16 bit data. If you do +/- 2 EV bracket, you'll end wit 18 bit days and so on.

I've done many sure surveys my line of work, always to find out later that I've missed some important data points. So I've learned the hard way to take as many measurements as possible in the field.

The same applies for photography: get as much data (bracket) as possible, PP later.

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May 5, 2019 10:06:21   #
Say Cheese Loc: Eastern PA
 
When I do an event where there are people of many colors, I always bracket. I then choose which one is best exposed and discard the others. These are not meant to be photographic masterpieces but recording the event with the people attending.

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May 5, 2019 10:06:39   #
Speed that kills
 
Ok, the newbie (me) is lost... Take the photo's done by Elia Lacardia, would those be examples of photo's that are bracketed? or something completely different

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May 5, 2019 10:12:03   #
bleirer
 
I've read that our visual system has an effective range of about 25 stops for color vision, even more for our black and white night mode. Because we combine many glances to construct our perception. So 2 to the 25th power is a ratio of more than 30,000 to 1.My camera gets maybe 9 stops, or a ratio of about 500 to 1. An average outdoor scene is within the nine stops, but our eyes can see detail in shadow and highlights at the same time, for example a white cloud above an eagle flying in a deep canyon on a sunny day. That is more than 9 stops. We say hdr is not good for moving things, but blending in layers can give details in the clouds and the deep recesses of the canyon where otherwise it would be a black blob or a white void.

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May 5, 2019 10:12:29   #
pico
 
rmalarz wrote:
As I've seen quoted before, "bracketing in for people who don't know how to expose properly".
--Bob


Thanks!

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May 5, 2019 10:13:56   #
pico
 
olemikey wrote:
Situation dependent tool. I'm not much of a bracket shooter (rarely, but when I want it - I want it) but in a run-n-gun situation, where on the move, focus and lighting challenges, little time for settings, more potentially good captures per click, another tool in the box. One can imagine quite a few situations where it is a useful function, with no shame attached.


Thanks. I am also revisiting my elements software on how to group the photos for bracketing.

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May 5, 2019 10:15:38   #
pico
 
DesRose wrote:
I know alot of people feel offended by Bob's quote. I am not. If people do not know how to use manual exposure, then it IS easier to do exposure bracketing and pick the photo with best exposure/capture. I would also add, "or for lazy people or people in a rush." When only 1 photo is truly needed to capture full dynamic range with minimal noise, it is EASIER/FASTER to just do a 3 bracket exposure instead of putting camera on manual mode and adjusting dials accordingly to get the best exposure from 1 shot. I am often guilty of this myself especially if out shooting with a group and have to move quickly. It's not as if we are shooting film. It's easy to delete any unwanted photos while saving the 'keepers'.
I know alot of people feel offended by Bob's quote... (show quote)


Thanks. I used to use photomatix several years ago but never purchased the software. Yesterday, I discovered my elements software lets me use bracketed photos as overlays. New experimentation for me.

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May 5, 2019 10:16:41   #
pico
 
jlg1000 wrote:
Mathematically, each EV stop shifts one bit the sensor readout.

So, in you have a 14 bit sensor, and do +/- 1 EV bracketing, in you will effectively read 16 bit data. If you do +/- 2 EV bracket, you'll end wit 18 bit days and so on.

I've done many sure surveys my line of work, always to find out later that I've missed some important data points. So I've learned the hard way to take as many measurements as possible in the field.

The same applies for photography: get as much data (bracket) as possible, PP later.
Mathematically, each EV stop shifts one bit the se... (show quote)


Thank you!

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May 5, 2019 10:17:25   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Bracketing for HDR is a good idea as it keeps the noise at lower levels in the final result.

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May 5, 2019 10:19:00   #
pico
 
Say Cheese wrote:
When I do an event where there are people of many colors, I always bracket. I then choose which one is best exposed and discard the others. These are not meant to be photographic masterpieces but recording the event with the people attending.


Thank you. I have discovered that my elements software program lets me use bracketed photos (2-10 shots) as overlays. I also discovered that camera shake can cause some problems if not careful.

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May 5, 2019 10:20:45   #
pico
 
Speed that kills wrote:
Ok, the newbie (me) is lost... Take the photo's done by Elia Lacardia, would those be examples of photo's that are bracketed? or something completely different


I'm a newbie too so not the best person to answer that question. I have my camera set to expose three photos for bracketing. At first, I figured it was a waste of time but now I discovered my post processing software lets me combine bracketed exposures.

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May 5, 2019 10:21:25   #
pico
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Bracketing for HDR is a good idea as it keeps the noise at lower levels in the final result.


Thanks. Just discovered my software program lets me use the bracketed photos.

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