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May 4, 2019 07:39:24   #
Jim Bianco
 
Do you turn VR off when panning a subject And what settings do you use? Thanks Jim Bianco

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May 4, 2019 07:44:20   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
I wouldn't. (I only have one setting.)

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May 4, 2019 07:51:25   #
Jim Bianco
 
Thanks

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May 4, 2019 08:12:38   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
No.

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May 4, 2019 08:19:09   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
I’ve wondered this as well, and have read several suggestions giving opposing advice. I have yet to read a good explanation of why. Personally, I leave it on and have had no problems. In fact I use the higher setting that Nikon provides for such shots.

Anyone want to explain the logic behind this?

Andy

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May 4, 2019 08:23:35   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
(The following is assuming you want to do slower speed panning, where the subject is sharp and the background is blurry.)

For VR, leave it on - VR will compensate for the motion opposite of the pan. So, if you're panning horizontally (99% of the cases), it will help keep things steady on the vertical plane.

As for settings, it's incredibly variable. You want a shutter speed much slower than you would typically use for the subject to get the full effect of motion in the background. However, your ability to pan, motion of the subject, speed, distance, all come into play. Experimentation is the key - try a shutter speed maybe 4 stops slower than your typical speed, practice and see if you like the effect. If there's not enough blur, drop even slower.

Finally, practice a LOT - it's not easy!

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May 4, 2019 08:30:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Steve Perry wrote:

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For VR, leave it on - VR will compensate for the motion opposite of the pan. So, if you're panning horizontally (99% of the cases), it will help keep things steady on the vertical plane.
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Yes, it will try to compensate for any camera jiggle.

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May 4, 2019 08:44:48   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Steve Perry wrote:
(The following is assuming you want to do slower speed panning, where the subject is sharp and the background is blurry.)

For VR, leave it on - VR will compensate for the motion opposite of the pan. So, if you're panning horizontally (99% of the cases), it will help keep things steady on the vertical plane.

As for settings, it's incredibly variable. You want a shutter speed much slower than you would typically use for the subject to get the full effect of motion in the background. However, your ability to pan, motion of the subject, speed, distance, all come into play. Experimentation is the key - try a shutter speed maybe 4 stops slower than your typical speed, practice and see if you like the effect. If there's not enough blur, drop even slower.

Finally, practice a LOT - it's not easy!
(The following is assuming you want to do slower s... (show quote)


Thanks, Steve!

I did not fully understand that the mechanism would not try to fight the horizontal movement of the panning.

Andy

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May 4, 2019 08:45:18   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Jim Bianco wrote:
Do you turn VR off when panning a subject And what settings do you use? Thanks Jim Bianco


If you are following a fast moving subject, optical stabilization can make your blurry background look "choppy" for lack of a better word. The subject will be fine, but the background will pick up on the sampling interval and it will have a bit of a stroboscopic look to it. I generally leave it off, unless I am using a lens that has a dual mode stabilization system, usually an "Active Mode" which does not affect panning shots.

I suspect that different lenses and cameras will produce different results, so I would try this yourself and see what works best for your lens(es) and camera(s).

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May 4, 2019 08:49:15   #
Jim Bianco
 
Thanks, Steve, by the way I was watching one of your videos last night on how to set auto focus and the benefits from it.Thanks for all that info. I have a D7100, I just have to watch the noise factor,I don't know what the limit is on ISO before the camera starts creating noise maybe you could let me know. Thanks Jim Bianco

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May 4, 2019 08:55:57   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Gene51 wrote:
If you are following a fast moving subject, optical stabilization can make your blurry background look "choppy" for lack of a better word. The subject will be fine, but the background will pick up on the sampling interval and it will have a bit of a stroboscopic look to it. I generally leave it off, unless I am using a lens that has a dual mode stabilization system, usually an "Active Mode" which does not affect panning shots.

I suspect that different lenses and cameras will produce different results, so I would try this yourself and see what works best for your lens(es) and camera(s).
If you are following a fast moving subject, optica... (show quote)


Thanks, Gene. I haven’t experienced that with the Nikon Active mode turned on, or even with it off. If it ever stops raining I’ll try some experiments.

Andy

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May 4, 2019 09:10:33   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Gene51 wrote:
If you are following a fast moving subject, optical stabilization can make your blurry background look "choppy" for lack of a better word. The subject will be fine, but the background will pick up on the sampling interval and it will have a bit of a stroboscopic look to it. I generally leave it off, unless I am using a lens that has a dual mode stabilization system, usually an "Active Mode" which does not affect panning shots.
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Are you referencing video?
How do you get choppy in stills?

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May 4, 2019 10:13:21   #
saxman71 Loc: Wenatchee
 
I asked a similar question several months back Jim. The answers were varied but my take away was to turn VR off unless you are shooting at a shutter speed less than 1/500 in an attempt to isolate your subject and blur the background. I have tested this with VR both on and off at high shutter speeds and in all honesty saw little difference in my end results. As for slowing the shutter speed to isolate the subject and enhance the feeling of speed, that's a skill I have not yet developed. Here's the link to my past thread. https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-567199-1.html

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May 4, 2019 10:57:58   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Gene51 wrote:
If you are following a fast moving subject, optical stabilization can make your blurry background look "choppy" for lack of a better word. The subject will be fine, but the background will pick up on the sampling interval and it will have a bit of a stroboscopic look to it. I generally leave it off, unless I am using a lens that has a dual mode stabilization system, usually an "Active Mode" which does not affect panning shots.

I suspect that different lenses and cameras will produce different results, so I would try this yourself and see what works best for your lens(es) and camera(s).
If you are following a fast moving subject, optica... (show quote)

Another question - If video, how would the background look choppy and not the subject also? The VR works on the entire image.

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May 4, 2019 12:33:50   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Jim Bianco wrote:
Do you turn VR off when panning a subject And what settings do you use? Thanks Jim Bianco


Absolutely, I turn it off whenever I shoot any action, or if I use the camera in that way, like panning.

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