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May 1, 2019 11:58:10   #
Kuzano
 
Panasonics new S1 is a Full Frame at 24 Mp mirrorless. When did that happen?

Here is the B&H link to the new Panasonic S1. The last large sensor camera I have seen from Panasonic since I owned a Panasonic L1 with the 4:3 sensor, alongside the Olympus E-1Professional (2003). Panasonic dropped out of the DSLR race at that time. The L1 was DSLR with 7.5 Megapixels in 2003 and a superb lens at 14-50mm.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1455066-REG/panasonic_dc_s1body_lumix_dc_s1_mirrorless_digital.html

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May 1, 2019 12:08:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Kuzano wrote:
Panasonics new S1 is a Full Frame at 24 Mp mirrorless. When did that happen

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-4-1.html


It was announced last year, and revealed in early 2019. They also have a 47.3 MP S1R. Both are shipping now.

Three Panasonic lenses at launch, plus ALL Leica L mount lenses.

https://www.panasonicff.com/panasonic-lumix-s-l-mount-full-frame-lens-roadmap-10-lenses-by-2020/

https://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/the-l-lens-roadmaps-from-panasonic-and-leica/

https://leicarumors.com/2019/03/01/sigma-full-frame-mirrorless-camera-with-leica-l-mount-and-60mp-foveon-sensor-delayed-until-2020-plus-new-sigma-l-mount-lens-roadmap.aspx/

A full frame Foveon sensor Sigma body is coming in 2020, too!

This will be a robust system, with several Leica, Panasonic, and Sigma cameras, and lenses interchangeable among all three.

Meanwhile, there are over 100 native Micro 4/3 lenses from at least four manufacturers that fit all Panasonic and Olympus Micro 4/3 cameras. Both Panasonic and Olympus have released or announced new Micro 4/3 cameras and lenses this year. Rumors about the death of Micro 4/3 are greatly exaggerated...

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May 1, 2019 12:22:59   #
Kuzano
 
Well now, that's interesting. Originally Leica was poised to be part of the 4:3 movement (consortium) but appeared to have dropped out. They have certainly done a large part in participating with the Lumix name, in collaboration with Panasonic. Nikon/Canon certainly have a bit more competition in the mirrorless market.

I just watched a review of the 24 Mp FF S1, and the new camera MUST CERTAINLY be weather resistant if not waterproof. The reviewer was drooling all over this S1.

Question, burkphoto, are you saying that the list of lenses that fit 4:3 mounts will all fit the new S1 and S1R. WOW! SHUT THE DOOR!!!

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May 1, 2019 12:44:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Kuzano wrote:
Well now, that's interesting. Originally Leica was poised to be part of the 4:3 movement (consortium) but appeared to have dropped out. They have certainly done a large part in participating with the Lumix name, in collaboration with Panasonic. Nikon/Canon certainly have a bit more competition in the mirrorless market.

I just watched a review of the 24 Mp FF S1, and the new camera MUST CERTAINLY be weather resistant if not waterproof. The reviewer was drooling all over this S1.

Question, burkphoto, are you saying that the list of lenses that fit 4:3 mounts will all fit the new S1 and S1R. WOW! SHUT THE DOOR!!!
Well now, that's interesting. Originally Leica was... (show quote)


No, those are two completely different systems. The Leica L mount is much wider. I'm not even sure that the L lenses could be adapted to Micro 4/3, but we'll see what happens. Micro 4/3 lenses' projected image circles are too small to cover the full frame format sensors.

Yes, the S1/S1R are weather resistant. I have a GH4 that has been through a couple of thunderstorms. I wiped it off and never had any problems with it... But I use lenses that are weather resistant, and I keep hoods and clear filters on them in the rain. The mounts of my zooms have O-rings on them. Not all Micro 4/3 lenses are similarly equipped.

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May 1, 2019 12:46:40   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Kuzano wrote:
The L1 was DSLR with 7.5 Megapixels in 2003 and a superb lens at 14-50mm.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1455066-REG/panasonic_dc_s1body_lumix_dc_s1_mirrorless_digital.html


While I did find a reference to an optical viewfinder, I cannot find any images of the camera actually showing one. I assume the reference was a misprint?

It was, and still is, a MILC camera based on the images I can find of it. Have you got any pictures of the camera and its Optical viewfinder to share?


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May 2, 2019 06:50:48   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
MT Shooter wrote:
While I did find a reference to an optical viewfinder, I cannot find any images of the camera actually showing one. I assume the reference was a misprint?

It was, and still is, a MILC camera based on the images I can find of it. Have you got any pictures of the camera and its Optical viewfinder to share?


Advertised on ebay today. L1 with Monitor and Viewfinder.


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May 2, 2019 09:31:19   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
MT Shooter wrote:
While I did find a reference to an optical viewfinder, I cannot find any images of the camera actually showing one. I assume the reference was a misprint?

It was, and still is, a MILC camera based on the images I can find of it. Have you got any pictures of the camera and its Optical viewfinder to share?


I believe the VF was optical TTL.

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May 2, 2019 19:44:34   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
The Panasonic L1 is a 4/3 format dSLR. It was released in 2006, two years before Micro 4/3.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panasonic_Lumix_DMC-L1

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