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May 1, 2019 08:18:07   #
Lukabulla
 
Hi Everyone ,
I've have this very annoying problem .
D300s .. SB600 Flash .. 18-105 /3.5 ed lens

Flash works fine in indoor scene .
But outdoors it seems to get confused .

EG a street scene with just a few street lamps
Then the pictures always turn out very dark and I have to bring them up in PS .
Ive tried all metering systems and all focus points / Tried manual / etc etc ..
The only thing that is better ( but only a little ) is camera on Auto .

Now I have found a possible answer on this link .http://francoismalan.com/2011/04/auto-iso-on-the-nikon-d7000/
According to it .. I'm suck with this issue as it's a quirk of the camera ..

Any views on this ?

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May 1, 2019 08:21:26   #
BebuLamar
 
Post an example please. I suspect that your subject are too far away.

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May 1, 2019 08:38:22   #
big-guy Loc: Peterborough Ontario Canada
 
When shooting flash outdoors, is your shutter stuck on sync speed (200 or 250) or can you slow it down to capture the ambient light? It would require going to manual.

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May 1, 2019 08:41:34   #
Lukabulla
 
Tnx
I tried 125 /5.6 same effect ..
See the link I sent .. it seems to say the camera overrides all settings one may choose.

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May 1, 2019 08:49:14   #
BebuLamar
 
Which link?

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May 1, 2019 08:55:44   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Post an example please. I suspect that your subject are too far away.



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May 1, 2019 08:56:20   #
Lukabulla
 
In my post I put in a Link .. its showing on here ..

Anyway here it is http://francoismalan.com/2011/04/auto-iso-on-the-nikon-d7000/

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May 1, 2019 09:01:12   #
BebuLamar
 
The flash does get kind of confused when you use auto ISO with flash. But if it works fine indoor I seriously suspect that your subject is too far away and the flash even at full power has no effect. You said you slow the shutter speed down to 1/125 and f/5.6 that isn't sufficient for ambient light exposure at ISO 100. For that setting typical street scene at night would require something like ISO 12800. But then again the flash does you little good.
Any way please post some example.

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May 1, 2019 09:43:42   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
The flash isn’t confused. It does what it is programmed to do. Mixing auto features like auto iso and ttl flash metering is bound to confuse the operator.

Take the flash into manual control and turn off auto ISO. Turn ISO up to at least ISO 500, and use slow shutter speed, or higher ISO depending on ambient light and how much you want of it. Use flash at full power to see what you can light up with it.

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May 1, 2019 09:51:12   #
big-guy Loc: Peterborough Ontario Canada
 
You need to check your programming menu and you will find an entry that locks or unlocks sync speed when using flash. Sorry, I don't know where that might be on your rig but it's there somewhere. Turn it off and you can then choose any shutter speed you wish.

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May 1, 2019 10:03:58   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
Lukabulla wrote:
Hi Everyone ,
I've have this very annoying problem .
D300s .. SB600 Flash .. 18-105 /3.5 ed lens

Flash works fine in indoor scene .
But outdoors it seems to get confused .

EG a street scene with just a few street lamps
Then the pictures always turn out very dark and I have to bring them up in PS .
Ive tried all metering systems and all focus points / Tried manual / etc etc ..
The only thing that is better ( but only a little ) is camera on Auto .

Now I have found a possible answer on this link .http://francoismalan.com/2011/04/auto-iso-on-the-nikon-d7000/
According to it .. I'm suck with this issue as it's a quirk of the camera ..

Any views on this ?
Hi Everyone , br I've have this very annoying prob... (show quote)


This Actually debunks your theory. It states the camera will choose exceedingly high ISO when Auto ISO is chosen. This would then make the scene much brighter or to bright. It also mentions lowering shutter speed to help give enough light for the scene depending on what mode your shooting in, again debunking your theory. . No mention of Flash mode/ camera mode/ and how you are metering your subject. are you manual selecting power for your flash or is the camera.. Not all cameras and flash combos are TTL compatible, etc, etc, ect.....As already mentioned distance to subject is important as well, and of course no image to view. Help us, help you.......

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May 1, 2019 11:47:08   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Post an example please. I suspect that your subject are too far away.


Ditto, clearly seems to be operater related issue, learn how a speedlight transmit light and make yourself smart on the inverse square law!

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May 2, 2019 06:12:39   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Lukabulla wrote:
Hi Everyone ,
I've have this very annoying problem .
D300s .. SB600 Flash .. 18-105 /3.5 ed lens

Flash works fine in indoor scene .
But outdoors it seems to get confused .

EG a street scene with just a few street lamps
Then the pictures always turn out very dark and I have to bring them up in PS .
Ive tried all metering systems and all focus points / Tried manual / etc etc ..
The only thing that is better ( but only a little ) is camera on Auto .

Now I have found a possible answer on this link .http://francoismalan.com/2011/04/auto-iso-on-the-nikon-d7000/
According to it .. I'm suck with this issue as it's a quirk of the camera ..

Any views on this ?
Hi Everyone , br I've have this very annoying prob... (show quote)


I would suggest DRAGGING your shutter. ie. slowing you flash sync. down to 1/30 or even 1/15 sec. your flash will help freeze the scene. Also a wider lens opening will help.

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May 2, 2019 07:17:25   #
BebuLamar
 
I am not sure if the OP has problem posting an example or he doesn't care.

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May 2, 2019 09:13:05   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Sounds like you’re beyond the reach of your flash. Be sure the flash is in TTL mode, camera in Manual, shutter at 1/200, aperture at F4.5, and ISO at 400. You can increase ISO for a little more reach from the flash. There’s a good YouTube video at Lite Genius that discusses this method for indoors but it would also work outdoors and at night with a limited shooting distance.

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