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Apr 10, 2019 18:59:57   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Huge declined in the first two months of 2019 compared to previous years. Will this continue and how will it affect the camera makers. Who will survive in the coming years if this continues.

In addition how will it impact the YouTube influencers and gear pushers. What will they vlog about as the inevitable curtain comes down.

https://www.dpreview.com/news/5758543529/cipa-s-february-2019-report-shows-huge-drop-in-global-digital-camera-shipments

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Apr 10, 2019 20:07:15   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The UHH 'you only live once' gear pushers will take up the slack ...

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Apr 10, 2019 21:58:21   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
joer wrote:
Huge declined in the first two months of 2019 compared to previous years. Will this continue and how will it affect the camera makers. Who will survive in the coming years if this continues.

In addition how will it impact the YouTube influencers and gear pushers. What will they vlog about as the inevitable curtain comes down.

https://www.dpreview.com/news/5758543529/cipa-s-february-2019-report-shows-huge-drop-in-global-digital-camera-shipments


"Inevitable curtain"? Nonsense! The market is changing and sales are off right now. Some smaller or less efficient companies may disappear but cameras will continue to be produced until something better comes along and then who cares about today's technology if there is something better to replace it. I don't know of any industry that doesn't go through periods of market change and slow sales. It's normal. The sky's not falling.

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Apr 11, 2019 06:25:00   #
steve49 Loc: massachusetts
 
Interesting changes I guess.
Could be a blip long term... as phone shooters decide that they want to take better photos.... but the trend is clear in one direction.

A tough battle though cause the phone is so easy to use and to share photos.

On most trips I will pull out the phone to take a few shots to email and instagram as well as use my dslr for " more serious" work.

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Apr 11, 2019 07:19:37   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
I use my phone as well although I'm not on social media if you discount UHH. Its so convenient because it is with me all the time, but is no replacement for my cameras at this point in time, maybe never.

Photography continues to change and no one really knows what the future will bring. One thing is almost certain, the trend does not look good for any of the players. There are not enough serious amateurs and professionals to support the number of camera brands at their current levels.

Short term good news for us as the competition helps improve the state of the art , long term bad news for many of the camera manufacturers.

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Apr 11, 2019 08:03:20   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
LFingar wrote:
"Inevitable curtain"? Nonsense! The market is changing and sales are off right now. Some smaller or less efficient companies may disappear but cameras will continue to be produced until something better comes along and then who cares about today's technology if there is something better to replace it. I don't know of any industry that doesn't go through periods of market change and slow sales. It's normal. The sky's not falling.


Who are those "smaller or less efficient companies"? What is their relationship to diminished sales VS the dreaded Cell Phone?
Attitudes have changed. Young people, just married and those starting families do not want to schlep around a camera a couple of lenses and all the related paraphernalia. Nor will they waste their time sitting around talking about the merits of one camera vs another.
They take a picture with their cell phone and it is instantly shared. They could care less about the pixil count, RAW ve jpeg. Their friends and family marvel at the pictures. Will they suffer the paranoia of how many backups they feel the need for or will they keep thousands or tens of thousands of pictures. Hell no. The quality of pictures taken by cell phones the changing demands all play a role in lost sales.
There will be no bounce.

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Apr 11, 2019 09:13:17   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The UHH 'you only live once' gear pushers will take up the slack ...


Iā€™m pledged to do what I can to help reverse the curve.
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Apr 11, 2019 09:26:29   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
47greyfox wrote:
Iā€™m pledged to do what I can to help reverse the curve.
šŸ‘šŸ¤”


I held up my end over the years and likely will continue for the right incentive.

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Apr 11, 2019 09:35:06   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
joer wrote:
I held up my end over the years and likely will continue for the right incentive.


Love it. It will not matter. The DSLR will still be around with diminished market share. Hell, Nikon, Canon, and Sony might merge and produce a single camera. They could call it a Nicaso. This way they will at least have their fingers in the pie.

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Apr 11, 2019 09:56:39   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Consolidation is probably inevitable, along with reductions in choices, to meet revenue objectives. Happens in other consumer sectors, why not photography equipment?

Stan

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Apr 11, 2019 10:14:24   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
traderjohn wrote:
Who are those "smaller or less efficient companies"? What is their relationship to diminished sales VS the dreaded Cell Phone?
Attitudes have changed. Young people, just married and those starting families do not want to schlep around a camera a couple of lenses and all the related paraphernalia. Nor will they waste their time sitting around talking about the merits of one camera vs another.
They take a picture with their cell phone and it is instantly shared. They could care less about the pixil count, RAW ve jpeg. Their friends and family marvel at the pictures. Will they suffer the paranoia of how many backups they feel the need for or will they keep thousands or tens of thousands of pictures. Hell no. The quality of pictures taken by cell phones the changing demands all play a role in lost sales.
There will be no bounce.
Who are those "smaller or less efficient comp... (show quote)


I stated that the market is changing and it is. The OP implied that cameras and all manner of gear will face an "inevitable curtain" which is nonsense. The big companies aren't going away but smaller companies, particularly those that specialize in certain products are going to have a rough ride. As cameras become smaller, lighter, and more capable how many people are going to want or need sling straps or camera backpacks? Filters? What do you want to bet that eventually you will be able to do just about anything you want in camera?
DSLRs are going away. That's pretty much a given. There is a market shift going on and sales may be down but the camera industry is certainly not headed towards any kind of "inevitable curtain". If anything, we will have better, more capable cameras in the future. The millions upon millions of cell phone users include a large percentage of people who never would have bought any kind of camera if it wasn't included in their phone. Those sales drive technology that we will all benefit from. Cameras in the future may resemble cell phones more then DSLRs, but there will be no loss in the ability to take high quality photos. If anything, the opposite will be true. Computers went through a similar metamorphis. It wasn't that long ago that if you wanted high performance you had to have a desktop PC. Laptops, tablets, and even cellphones have changed all that and we have gained, not lost anything in the process.

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Apr 11, 2019 10:42:43   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
LFingar wrote:
I stated that the market is changing and it is. The OP implied that cameras and all manner of gear will face an "inevitable curtain"


That is a stretch and no where close to what I said or implied. Read it again objectively if you can.

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Apr 11, 2019 11:07:10   #
gtilford Loc: Woodstock, Ontario, Canada
 
So having been a tech head for the past almost 30 years, always having to upgrade to the newest and latest in computers, and software. I have found over the last 3 to 5 years I have not bothered as the returns have diminished related to the cost. Could it be the same thing happening with cameras. Why has the speed and ability of what can be done in a camera not kept up with what can happen in a cell phone. The manufacturer that figures out how to include half of what can happen with a cell phone into a camera will be the ones that survive. Today's consumers are expecting much more for the money they spend.....where as I have gone the other way of if it is not broke don't bother replacing it, as the return for the money spent is just not worth the cost.
I see a lot of consumer products this way now not just tech gear.

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Apr 11, 2019 11:28:54   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
joer wrote:
That is a stretch and no where close to what I said or implied. Read it again objectively if you can.


How is it a stretch? You post a link about declining sales and then go on about an "inevitable curtain closing down" because of it. That's the stretch. The market is changing. Technology is changing. Regardless, people who want to take high quality photos of all types will still be able to. If anything we will have smaller, lighter, more capable gear to do it with and there will still be YouTube videos and vloggers doing their thing. High quality cameras, photography and the practitioners aren't going away or facing some inevitable curtain. They just have to make room for all those with other objectives.

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Apr 11, 2019 11:34:00   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
gtilford wrote:
Why has the speed and ability of what can be done in a camera not kept up with what can happen in a cell phone. The manufacturer that figures out how to include half of what can happen with a cell phone into a camera will be the ones that survive. Today's consumers are expecting much more for the money they spend......


An excerpt from an interview with Sony's Kenji Tanaka VP & GM of their Digital Imaging Group.

"I want to invest in the kinds of technologies that drive the world of imaging, and [...] create a cycle. Computational photography is one aspect, lenses are another. Iā€™m very positive for the future."

I believe he has the right idea for future success.

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