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Apr 9, 2019 20:04:58   #
Taz1
 
Recommendations from this group helped immensely on my settings for baseball last weekend, at least the daytime shots. They came out great. However, struggling with the night shots. I have a new 70-200 2.8 Nikkor lens for my D7500. It has a lot of settings on the lens itself and I haven't gotten much out of the brochure that came with the lens. Any suggestions on the settings (camera/lens). I have been shooting in Manual or shutter priority, at 2.8, auto iso, with a ss at 1,200 to 1,600, sometimes dipping down to 1,000 since the histogram is showing much too dark. I have tried using the exposure compensation from .3 to .7. Still getting really dark pics. Definitely noise, but was hoping to get some settings that would either take care of the noise or the darkness, and thought I could worry about the other in post processing. Usually shooting the third baseman, pitcher or batter. Don't go to shooting the outfield. Thanks in advance.

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Apr 9, 2019 20:28:58   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
I shot collegiate sports for a while. Now I shoot high school baseball/softball games where the lighting isn't very good. There comes a time when you just have to put the camera down because it is too dark. For me that is at about 1/250 2.8 and about a 1200 ISO. After that nothing is useful due to noise, but for personal use I can get some cool B&W with high ISO's beyond that.

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Apr 9, 2019 21:23:54   #
wayne-03 Loc: Minnesota
 
Girl’s middle school volleyball, terrible lighting.
f/2.8 – 1/800 – ISO 3200


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Apr 9, 2019 21:27:26   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Taz1 wrote:
Recommendations from this group helped immensely on my settings for baseball last weekend, at least the daytime shots. They came out great. However, struggling with the night shots. I have a new 70-200 2.8 Nikkor lens for my D7500. It has a lot of settings on the lens itself and I haven't gotten much out of the brochure that came with the lens. Any suggestions on the settings (camera/lens). I have been shooting in Manual or shutter priority, at 2.8, auto iso, with a ss at 1,200 to 1,600, sometimes dipping down to 1,000 since the histogram is showing much too dark. I have tried using the exposure compensation from .3 to .7. Still getting really dark pics. Definitely noise, but was hoping to get some settings that would either take care of the noise or the darkness, and thought I could worry about the other in post processing. Usually shooting the third baseman, pitcher or batter. Don't go to shooting the outfield. Thanks in advance.
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Try F2.8 and ISO 6.4K to 12.8K.

Don’t be afraid of high ISO on that camera.

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Apr 10, 2019 07:32:06   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
Taz1 wrote:
Recommendations from this group helped immensely on my settings for baseball last weekend, at least the daytime shots. They came out great. However, struggling with the night shots. I have a new 70-200 2.8 Nikkor lens for my D7500. It has a lot of settings on the lens itself and I haven't gotten much out of the brochure that came with the lens. Any suggestions on the settings (camera/lens). I have been shooting in Manual or shutter priority, at 2.8, auto iso, with a ss at 1,200 to 1,600, sometimes dipping down to 1,000 since the histogram is showing much too dark. I have tried using the exposure compensation from .3 to .7. Still getting really dark pics. Definitely noise, but was hoping to get some settings that would either take care of the noise or the darkness, and thought I could worry about the other in post processing. Usually shooting the third baseman, pitcher or batter. Don't go to shooting the outfield. Thanks in advance.
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When you say noise do you mean when you zoom in on the monitor? One of the problems we have as photographers is we over analyze our pictures. I shot college lacrosse last week at night under the lights with a inexpensive 70-300 4.5-6.3 lens at 6.3 and ISO of 4000. Was there noise? Yes when I zoomed in on the monitor and inspected the images there was but when viewed at normal size they look fine. I am shooting with a d7200, your 7500 is supposed to have better high iso capability. Push that ISO up, stop worrying about the noise and get the shot. Good luck.

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Apr 10, 2019 09:21:59   #
jacklewis014
 
You need to push the ISO up - as others have stated, try 6400 and move up from there as necessary.
Get as close as you can to the action because the more you have to crop your images, the greater chance you will experience a grainy look.

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Apr 10, 2019 09:47:12   #
Taz1
 
I have tried setting at an Auto ISO with a max limit of 12,800. I had to pull the shutter speed down to 1,000. The data is showing anywhere from 6,400 to 12,800 on the pics that were taken. I have also experimented with adding a couple of stops to the exposure compensation. These would all be taken once it is dark and the only light is from the field lights and the zoom is set all the way out to get across the field. The photos are "soft". I don't know if that is because the shutter speed is too slow or the ISO is too high. These are all action shots from outside the fence down the first base line shooting across the field to the third base side. That is as close as I can get due to the fencing and the dugouts.

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Apr 10, 2019 10:22:09   #
Kozan Loc: Trenton Tennessee
 
Taz1 wrote:
Recommendations from this group helped immensely on my settings for baseball last weekend, at least the daytime shots. They came out great. However, struggling with the night shots. I have a new 70-200 2.8 Nikkor lens for my D7500. It has a lot of settings on the lens itself and I haven't gotten much out of the brochure that came with the lens. Any suggestions on the settings (camera/lens). I have been shooting in Manual or shutter priority, at 2.8, auto iso, with a ss at 1,200 to 1,600, sometimes dipping down to 1,000 since the histogram is showing much too dark. I have tried using the exposure compensation from .3 to .7. Still getting really dark pics. Definitely noise, but was hoping to get some settings that would either take care of the noise or the darkness, and thought I could worry about the other in post processing. Usually shooting the third baseman, pitcher or batter. Don't go to shooting the outfield. Thanks in advance.
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Exposure compensation only affects the metering when in manual mode. It does not change your exposure. Reset it back to 0.0. What is the Maximum ISO setting? You can change that.

Also, 1/1000s should be OK. I've used that successfully for Minor league BB.

Good luck.

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Apr 10, 2019 10:32:37   #
ABJanes Loc: Jersey Boy now Virginia
 
I have found working to de-noise images in raw to be quite effective. Yes, they are still soft but very interesting.


Taz1 wrote:
I have tried setting at an Auto ISO with a max limit of 12,800. I had to pull the shutter speed down to 1,000. The data is showing anywhere from 6,400 to 12,800 on the pics that were taken. I have also experimented with adding a couple of stops to the exposure compensation. These would all be taken once it is dark and the only light is from the field lights and the zoom is set all the way out to get across the field. The photos are "soft". I don't know if that is because the shutter speed is too slow or the ISO is too high. These are all action shots from outside the fence down the first base line shooting across the field to the third base side. That is as close as I can get due to the fencing and the dugouts.
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Apr 10, 2019 10:47:41   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
Taz1 wrote:
Recommendations from this group helped immensely on my settings for baseball last weekend, at least the daytime shots. They came out great. However, struggling with the night shots. I have a new 70-200 2.8 Nikkor lens for my D7500. It has a lot of settings on the lens itself and I haven't gotten much out of the brochure that came with the lens. Any suggestions on the settings (camera/lens). I have been shooting in Manual or shutter priority, at 2.8, auto iso, with a ss at 1,200 to 1,600, sometimes dipping down to 1,000 since the histogram is showing much too dark. I have tried using the exposure compensation from .3 to .7. Still getting really dark pics. Definitely noise, but was hoping to get some settings that would either take care of the noise or the darkness, and thought I could worry about the other in post processing. Usually shooting the third baseman, pitcher or batter. Don't go to shooting the outfield. Thanks in advance.
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Taz1 all these comments is what I would say. Up the iso, the camera can take it. Please post the shots in question. We can then see for ourselves what the problem could be.

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Apr 10, 2019 11:22:55   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
Taz1 wrote:
Recommendations from this group helped immensely on my settings for baseball last weekend, at least the daytime shots. They came out great. However, struggling with the night shots. I have a new 70-200 2.8 Nikkor lens for my D7500. It has a lot of settings on the lens itself and I haven't gotten much out of the brochure that came with the lens. Any suggestions on the settings (camera/lens). I have been shooting in Manual or shutter priority, at 2.8, auto iso, with a ss at 1,200 to 1,600, sometimes dipping down to 1,000 since the histogram is showing much too dark. I have tried using the exposure compensation from .3 to .7. Still getting really dark pics. Definitely noise, but was hoping to get some settings that would either take care of the noise or the darkness, and thought I could worry about the other in post processing. Usually shooting the third baseman, pitcher or batter. Don't go to shooting the outfield. Thanks in advance.
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Here is a follow up to my previous reply. These were shot at night under the lights with my D7200 with the $150 70-300 4.5-6.3 afp lens. The camera was set at F6.3 Shutter 500 and ISO 5000 Are they great? No! SI is definately not wanting them, but are they good enough under the conditions? I think so. Is there noise, yes. Don't let noise scare you. If I can get these shots at 5000 ISO with my set up you should be able to get better results with your set up. FYI these shots have not been edited yet other than cropping. They need some post processing to get them even better but I wanted you to see results straight out of camera with no noise reduction or other processing

Good luck and keep shooting, post some of your results.


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Apr 10, 2019 11:38:42   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Jaackil wrote:
Here is a follow up to my previous reply. These were shot at night under the lights with my D7200 with the $150 70-300 4.5-6.3 afp lens. The camera was set at F6.3 Shutter 500 and ISO 5000 Are they great? No! SI is definately not wanting them, but are they good enough under the conditions? I think so. Is there noise, yes. Don't let noise scare you. If I can get these shots at 5000 ISO with my set up you should be able to get better results with your set up. FYI these shots have not been edited yet other than cropping. They need some post processing to get them even better but I wanted you to see results straight out of camera with no noise reduction or other processing

Good luck and keep shooting, post some of your results.
Here is a follow up to my previous reply. These w... (show quote)


Nice work. I purchased this lens when it was released and thought it was the best value lens in the Nikon system. Focus speed and image quality are unrivaled in this price range. One of Nikon's overlooked gems.

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Apr 10, 2019 12:19:42   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
Jaackil wrote:
Here is a follow up to my previous reply. These were shot at night under the lights with my D7200 with the $150 70-300 4.5-6.3 afp lens. The camera was set at F6.3 Shutter 500 and ISO 5000 Are they great? No! SI is definately not wanting them, but are they good enough under the conditions? I think so. Is there noise, yes. Don't let noise scare you. If I can get these shots at 5000 ISO with my set up you should be able to get better results with your set up. FYI these shots have not been edited yet other than cropping. They need some post processing to get them even better but I wanted you to see results straight out of camera with no noise reduction or other processing

Good luck and keep shooting, post some of your results.
Here is a follow up to my previous reply. These w... (show quote)


These shots are good. At 100% in the download noise yes, but not that bad at all.

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Apr 10, 2019 13:11:20   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Taz1 wrote:
I have tried setting at an Auto ISO with a max limit of 12,800. I had to pull the shutter speed down to 1,000. The data is showing anywhere from 6,400 to 12,800 on the pics that were taken. I have also experimented with adding a couple of stops to the exposure compensation. These would all be taken once it is dark and the only light is from the field lights and the zoom is set all the way out to get across the field. The photos are "soft". I don't know if that is because the shutter speed is too slow or the ISO is too high. These are all action shots from outside the fence down the first base line shooting across the field to the third base side. That is as close as I can get due to the fencing and the dugouts.
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Unless you want to count the seems on the ball 1/1000 should do fine.

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Apr 10, 2019 16:10:35   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Taz1 wrote:
Recommendations from this group helped immensely on my settings for baseball last weekend, at least the daytime shots. They came out great. However, struggling with the night shots. I have a new 70-200 2.8 Nikkor lens for my D7500. It has a lot of settings on the lens itself and I haven't gotten much out of the brochure that came with the lens. Any suggestions on the settings (camera/lens). I have been shooting in Manual or shutter priority, at 2.8, auto iso, with a ss at 1,200 to 1,600, sometimes dipping down to 1,000 since the histogram is showing much too dark. I have tried using the exposure compensation from .3 to .7. Still getting really dark pics. Definitely noise, but was hoping to get some settings that would either take care of the noise or the darkness, and thought I could worry about the other in post processing. Usually shooting the third baseman, pitcher or batter. Don't go to shooting the outfield. Thanks in advance.
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Your 7500 can handle much higher ISO with almost no noise. Do some experiments. Same camera and I don't see anything I can't handle with a little PP up to about 6400. Some of the noise you see comes from under exposing, one of the biggest causes of noise in any camera. Get off auto ISO. It is not your friend in this situation. The light doesn't change on the field from shot to shot. Find the right exposure for each area you want to shoot and go manual. Third base is always going to be the same. Home plate, the outfield, the same thing. Don't use exposure compensation either. Unchanging light is the perfect manual shooting situation. Also, this is monopod country. Get a good one and a nice ball head and your good to go.
...Cam

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