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Apr 3, 2019 15:24:23   #
Rich2236 Loc: E. Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
I say this with all due respect to the Pope. He, (Francis,) states "He who raises a wall, ends up a prisoner of the wall he erected." He further talks about other countries like Spain putting up walls/fences to deter migrants as "shameful."

Well, I have to say, when we were in Italy, we visited the Vatican. THE WALL AROUND THE ENTIRE VATICAN CITY WAS MOST IMPRESSIVE, being about 40 or 50 feet high, and I imagine about 10 to 20 feet thick! And there are guards, both civil authorities and Vatican police at EVERY entrance to keep out UN_WANTED people!!! He, (Pope Francis) goes further, stating, "The blame for poverty and war lays at the feet of capitalism." I do not feel that the Pope has any right to make those statements. When he tears down the walls around the Vatican and allows everyone to enter and camp out there, then he can say anything he wants about walls.

I apologize as this will probably evoke a tirade of reply's. But I have to repeat, I am not trying to be disrespectful at all. If there were no walls around the Vatican, then there would be nothing to say.
Rich...

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Apr 3, 2019 15:26:39   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 

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Apr 3, 2019 15:28:39   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Rich2236 wrote:
I say this with all due respect to the Pope. He, (Francis,) states "He who raises a wall, ends up a prisoner of the wall he erected." He further talks about other countries like Spain putting up walls/fences to deter migrants as "shameful."

Well, I have to say, when we were in Italy, we visited the Vatican. THE WALL AROUND THE ENTIRE VATICAN CITY WAS MOST IMPRESSIVE, being about 40 or 50 feet high, and I imagine about 10 to 20 feet thick! And there are guards, both civil authorities and Vatican police at EVERY entrance to keep out UN_WANTED people!!! He, (Pope Francis) goes further, stating, "The blame for poverty and war lays at the feet of capitalism." I do not feel that the Pope has any right to make those statements. When he tears down the walls around the Vatican and allows everyone to enter and camp out there, then he can say anything he wants about walls.

I apologize as this will probably evoke a tirade of reply's. But I have to repeat, I am not trying to be disrespectful at all. If there were no walls around the Vatican, then there would be nothing to say.
Rich...
I say this with all due respect to the Pope. He, ... (show quote)


You forgot to mention that the Vatican is the richest nation on the planet.

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Apr 3, 2019 15:35:08   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
Rich2236 wrote:
I say this with all due respect to the Pope. He, (Francis,) states "He who raises a wall, ends up a prisoner of the wall he erected." He further talks about other countries like Spain putting up walls/fences to deter migrants as "shameful."

Well, I have to say, when we were in Italy, we visited the Vatican. THE WALL AROUND THE ENTIRE VATICAN CITY WAS MOST IMPRESSIVE, being about 40 or 50 feet high, and I imagine about 10 to 20 feet thick! And there are guards, both civil authorities and Vatican police at EVERY entrance to keep out UN_WANTED people!!! He, (Pope Francis) goes further, stating, "The blame for poverty and war lays at the feet of capitalism." I do not feel that the Pope has any right to make those statements. When he tears down the walls around the Vatican and allows everyone to enter and camp out there, then he can say anything he wants about walls.

I apologize as this will probably evoke a tirade of reply's. But I have to repeat, I am not trying to be disrespectful at all. If there were no walls around the Vatican, then there would be nothing to say.
Rich...
I say this with all due respect to the Pope. He, ... (show quote)





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Apr 3, 2019 15:35:28   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
letmedance wrote:
You forgot to mention that the Vatican is the richest nation on the planet.





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Apr 3, 2019 15:42:40   #
pendennis
 
Pope Francis is a Socialist, and in favor of wealth redistribution.

If a true Socialist, he would start by redistributing the Roman Catholic Church's wealth among all the poor. They don't seem to take their vows of poverty very seriously.

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Apr 3, 2019 15:49:15   #
Rich2236 Loc: E. Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
Wow, thank you everyone. I did not think I would get such a positive response!
Rich...

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Apr 3, 2019 15:52:45   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Rich2236 wrote:
Wow, thank you everyone. I did not think I would get such a positive response!
Rich...

Seems only logical!

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Apr 3, 2019 15:54:25   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
pendennis wrote:
Pope Francis is a Socialist, and in favor of wealth redistribution.

If a true Socialist, he would start by redistributing the Roman Catholic Church's wealth among all the poor. They don't seem to take their vows of poverty very seriously.


They have and always will pass the collection tray no matter how poor their members may be.

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Apr 3, 2019 15:55:51   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
I would tend to agree with the post except I figure that anyone that has a wall is qualified to know if they make the person feel like they are in prison.

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Apr 3, 2019 15:56:57   #
Schwabo Loc: Florida
 
Ditto!!!!!!

Rich2236 wrote:
I say this with all due respect to the Pope. He, (Francis,) states "He who raises a wall, ends up a prisoner of the wall he erected." He further talks about other countries like Spain putting up walls/fences to deter migrants as "shameful."

Well, I have to say, when we were in Italy, we visited the Vatican. THE WALL AROUND THE ENTIRE VATICAN CITY WAS MOST IMPRESSIVE, being about 40 or 50 feet high, and I imagine about 10 to 20 feet thick! And there are guards, both civil authorities and Vatican police at EVERY entrance to keep out UN_WANTED people!!! He, (Pope Francis) goes further, stating, "The blame for poverty and war lays at the feet of capitalism." I do not feel that the Pope has any right to make those statements. When he tears down the walls around the Vatican and allows everyone to enter and camp out there, then he can say anything he wants about walls.

I apologize as this will probably evoke a tirade of reply's. But I have to repeat, I am not trying to be disrespectful at all. If there were no walls around the Vatican, then there would be nothing to say.
Rich...
I say this with all due respect to the Pope. He, ... (show quote)

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Apr 3, 2019 15:58:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Country Boy wrote:
I would tend to agree with the post except I figure that anyone that has a wall is qualified to know if they make the person feel like they are in prison.

Walls-
No freedom to come and go, prison.
Freedom to come and go, protection.

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Apr 3, 2019 16:14:25   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
Longshadow wrote:
Walls-
No freedom to come and go, prison.
Freedom to come and go, protection.





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Apr 3, 2019 16:32:42   #
ClarkG Loc: Southern Indiana USA
 
Well, I am a Catholic but I must agree that the Pope should actually stay out of world politics! As mentioned, there is a huge wall around the Vatican! As Trump said, walks aren’t necessarily used to keep all people out, but to keep the people behind the wall SAFE. Nancy Pelosi (and many more Dems) AND Trump BOTH live in gated communities and behind walls. Without walls, you might as well keep your house UNLOCKED?!

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Apr 3, 2019 16:50:46   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
I have to ask: When was the wall around the vatican built?
I suspect it is pretty old. Back in the day (well before my time) the walls really were necessary to try to keep out the murderers/rapists (aka knights in the service of rival monarchs). And there were real barbarians in those days.

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