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Apr 2, 2019 11:54:52   #
BebuLamar
 
nadelewitz wrote:
Not so fast, all you doubters!

Yes, it is a real camera, though not a very good one. There have been numerous cheap plastic camera like this, using 35mm or 12 film. The generally leak light like sieves.

Not what the many "discerning" UHH snobs would consider using.

BUUUUT.....there are organizations devoted to the selling and use of these things. Lomography is one. It's like a cult of users of crappy Chinese/Russian junk cameras.
There are people...artists, students, etc...who love to experiment with and use these because of the weird unpredictable things they can do to an image...light leak effects, distortions and aberrations, etc.

If the shutter works and the lens is reasonably clear, it can produce images.
Not so fast, all you doubters! br br Yes, it is a... (show quote)


But the OP camera is even worse than stuff selling by Lomography. It's not the Hoga or Diana. It's a 35mm camera. I said it's zone focus but now I take it back it's fixed focus.

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Apr 2, 2019 11:55:54   #
willaim Loc: Sunny Southern California
 
Might be a good paper weight.

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Apr 2, 2019 12:53:26   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
speters wrote:
Its not a real (working) camera, its a plastic toy!


No, it's real alright. I have a nearly identical one (I bought a nice camera bag at a flea market last year, and the camera happened to be in it). Certainly not in any way a good camera, but not much worse than say, a Diana or Holga. Except that it takes 35mm film rather than 120.

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Apr 2, 2019 15:16:04   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
WILLARD98407 wrote:
Looks like one I got for going to look at a campground scam. They swore it was worth at least & 200.00.

I didn't buy.


Exactly. It’s one of those “free gift” cameras. I think those cardboard disposables had a better lens.

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Apr 2, 2019 16:09:21   #
Bipod
 
nadelewitz wrote:
Not so fast, all you doubters!

Yes, it is a real camera, though not a very good one. There have been numerous cheap plastic camera like this (Holga, Diana....) using 35mm or 120 film. They generally leak light like sieves.

Not what the many "discerning" UHH snobs would consider using.

BUUUUT.....there are organizations devoted to the selling and use of these things. Lomography is one. It's like a cult of users of crappy Chinese/Russian junk cameras.
There are people...artists, students, etc...who love to experiment with and use these because of the weird unpredictable things they can do to an image...light leak effects, distortions and aberrations, etc.

If the shutter works and the lens is reasonably clear, it can produce images.

The one pictured does look to be coated with mold/mildew though, so wash it off.
Not so fast, all you doubters! br br Yes, it is a... (show quote)

It probably has less light leaks than a Holga. Other than that, I can't see spending
much time on it. The OP should head for the nearest thrift store and look for an
old Minolta 35 mm that works. Even A-mount film Maxxums show up sometimes.

Good cameras have been made out of steel, aluminum, wood and yes, even plastic.

Ilford's Harman Titan is a large format pinhole camera with a plastic body.
It accepts film holders and takes great pinhole images. The 8" x 10" version has
been discontinued, but the 5" x 4" is available. Review:
https://www.ephotozine.com/article/harman-titan-pinhole-5x4-camera-kit-review-18049

Plastic deserves it's terrible reputation---but not all plastics are equally bad.
THe very first plastic made from synthetic componets -- Bakelite --- is a remarkably
stable, heat-resistant and durable material--but brittle.

It was used by Kodak for the bodies of a number of box cameras, including the very
popular Brownie Hawkeye (made from 1949 until 1961). This P&S (fixed everything)
camera took 620 film (no longer made), but most can easily be modified for 120.
Format is 2.25" (6 cm) square. http://www.brownie-camera.com/27.shtml

My Hawkeye flash model -- which I bought in a thrift store -- is at least 60 years old
and works. All I did was clean the lens and viewfinder, and modify it for 120 film.
The biggest drawback is the 1-element (positive meniscus) lens....made of plastic.
It's not sharp at all, but capable of a decent snapshot of the right subject. I shot one roll
and now the camera is a cool-looking tchotchke. But some people still use them.

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Apr 2, 2019 17:01:22   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
PA Shutterbug wrote:
A friend of a friend asked for information on this "camera." Help!!!


That might be one of the last surviving copies of the ultra rare "Plastiflex" 35mm film cameras! One that came up for auction a couple years ago sold for over $50,000...

Oh, wait... it's April 1, isn't it?

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Apr 2, 2019 17:22:48   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
Looks to me like one of those novelty things that do something else. Or that show one or a few images if you look in the viewfinder. A toy.

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Apr 2, 2019 17:25:51   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
hassighedgehog wrote:
Looks to me like one of those novelty things that do something else. Or that show one or a few images if you look in the viewfinder. A toy.


No, it's a real camera.

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Apr 2, 2019 20:20:00   #
unduki
 
Looks like one I got from a comic book ad. Remember 126 film?

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Apr 2, 2019 20:23:21   #
flathead27ford Loc: Colorado, North of Greeley
 
Not worth anything but it is a real camera. Used as give aways and bought by bulk.

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Apr 2, 2019 20:35:54   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
It looks surprisingly like my old Regula Picca C 35mm camera. I bought in Germany (at the PX) around 1973; it's made of plastic (including the lens). I bought it as a pocket camera when going on Volksmarches and into the field. It took very good photos; they were extremely sharp (in spite of the plastic lens!). By selecting the weather condition you would automatically enter in the f/stop AND shutter speed. If you wanted to do it manually, you could still only enter in the f/stop AND shutter speed. You could not set them independently of each other (kind of like shooting in Auto mode!). I used the camera a lot, especially when it was impossible to lug around my SLR and companion lenses. Like I said, it was an extremely good camera.

Just checked Ebay and my Regula Picca was being sold for "$49.99 or best offer". That's more than I originally paid for it in the PX.

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Apr 2, 2019 21:13:48   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
Do not listen to these know it alls. The camera is in the tune of the old plastic camera know as a Holga. The original Holga, if you can find one for sale will start at $200 to $500. Though when original sold they went for $2.00 to $6.00.

These cameras used ISO 200 to 400 speed color print film. The shutter follows the old Kodak standard shutter speed of 1/50 second. the settings on the 'f' stop are shown based on the sunny 16 rule of f 16. So the sun showing is f=16, and the other symbols reflect the old symbols found in the exposure guides found printed on the paper instruction sheets packaged with the film.

By the way, the original Holga camera as it was called was given away as promotional items with the company name affixed to the top. In the case of the Holga it might be marked 'Shakeys' for Shakey's pizza. Marked like that the collectors will pay twice to five times the going rate of the standard price.

Like all collectables, don't clean or alter the thing. Also value goes up if you have the original box and instruction sheet for collectors.

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Apr 2, 2019 22:16:26   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
PA Shutterbug wrote:
A friend of a friend asked for information on this "camera." Help!!!


I think my old Mickey Mouse camera is worth more....but an interesting conversation piece...looks like a kiddie toy camera.

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Apr 2, 2019 22:39:34   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
I think my old Mickey Mouse camera is worth more....but an interesting conversation piece...looks like a kiddie toy camera.


Probably true. I was rummaging through an old thrift store's pile of junk and I came across one of the old Holga cameras in it's original boxes with a roll of unused 120 color film, and instructions. It was valued ay $10 and I bough it. On my way home I stopped by an old girlfriends place, surprise she was home!

I rang the door bell and she opened the door, surprised to see me!

I told her I was sorry I missed her birthday(s) these past few years but I found her just the right birthday gift. I handed her the box unwrapped. Boy did I get a huge hug for my late birthday gift! She collects cameras and uses two Holga cameras all the time.

The link to her reclining portrait over on the Hog nude posts:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-585832-1.html#10029160

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Apr 2, 2019 23:16:15   #
Bipod
 
Timmers wrote:
Do not listen to these know it alls. The camera is in the tune of the old plastic camera know as a Holga. The original Holga, if you can find one for sale will start at $200 to $500. Though when original sold they went for $2.00 to $6.00.

These cameras used ISO 200 to 400 speed color print film. The shutter follows the old Kodak standard shutter speed of 1/50 second. the settings on the 'f' stop are shown based on the sunny 16 rule of f 16. So the sun showing is f=16, and the other symbols reflect the old symbols found in the exposure guides found printed on the paper instruction sheets packaged with the film.

By the way, the original Holga camera as it was called was given away as promotional items with the company name affixed to the top. In the case of the Holga it might be marked 'Shakeys' for Shakey's pizza. Marked like that the collectors will pay twice to five times the going rate of the standard price.

Like all collectables, don't clean or alter the thing. Also value goes up if you have the original box and instruction sheet for collectors.
Do not listen to these know it alls. The camera is... (show quote)

Well you know, some people will pay $200 for an autograph by Eric Estrada.
Has Hannah Montana merchandise become collectable yet? (No knock on Miley--she does
what she has to do.)

I have 120 film Holga from about 2010. It leaks light like a sieve. Like most Holga owners,
I put black electrical tape over the seams and that makes the piece of junk usable.

The original Holga was designed in China in 1982 as a cheap low-quality camera for the proletariat.
The first imports to North America apparently begin in the 1990s. Production ceased in 2015.

The highest price listed on this survey of sale prices site for any model 1990s model is $80-$90--
for a Holga 120 WPC: 6 x 9 cm or 6 x 12 cm wide format:
http://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Holga/

I have a 2000s Holga 120 film camera and it leaks light like a sieve. Like most Holga owners,
I put black electrical tape over the seams, and now the piece of junk is usable.

There are many, many inexpensive 120 film cameras from the 1950s that are much better than a
Holga. I have a German-made Franka Solida II and a Zeiss Ikon Nettar -- both consumer-grade
cameras and very limited -- but way better than the Holga.

Lomography is a religion: bad is good! On the whole, though, it has had a beneficial
influence on photography beause it has remnded photographers that the final image is what
matters, not technology. But don't buy a Holga.

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