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Mar 20, 2019 15:51:29   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
I was lucky enough to take a number of images the other day at a local harbor with fog drifting thru the masts but when I got home to process them nothing I did seemed to bring out the fog. I then did google searches and didn’t really find much other than a video using affinity by making a layer with a graduated filter with just color but that seemed like I was creating fog rather than highlighting. I tried a number of dehaze options inside Lightroom, On1 , Luminar and even Topaz Studio with nothing working.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

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Mar 20, 2019 16:05:19   #
Bob Story
 
If these are valuable shots that you want to keep, I would like to take a stab at the fog problem in Photoshop. If you want to email one to me I'll try, and then let you know what I did.
bobstory12@yahoo.com

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Mar 20, 2019 16:08:38   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
Bob Story wrote:
If these are valuable shots that you want to keep, I would like to take a stab at the fog problem in Photoshop. If you want to email one to me I'll try, and then let you know what I did.
bobstory12@yahoo.com


Thanks but they aren't. Mainly an attempt at shooting a different style.

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Mar 20, 2019 16:08:41   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Ednsb wrote:
I was lucky enough to take a number of images the other day at a local harbor with fog drifting thru the masts but when I got home to process them nothing I did seemed to bring out the fog. I then did google searches and didn’t really find much other than a video using affinity by making a layer with a graduated filter with just color but that seemed like I was creating fog rather than highlighting. I tried a number of dehaze options inside Lightroom, On1 , Luminar and even Topaz Studio with nothing working.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
I was lucky enough to take a number of images the ... (show quote)


For your purposes you would be using Dehaze (and Clarity for that manner) in the negative way. But selectively not globally I would think. Fog was harder to enhance than it sounded to me when I tried to do it which took me a while to work on but never worked out. Here's 3 examples I'm not that happy with.







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Mar 20, 2019 16:10:31   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
If you're using Photoshop, in ACR move the dehaze slider to the left. I would also try taking the Clarity slider left

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Mar 20, 2019 18:45:12   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I've shot all kinds of fog in all kinds of conditions. If you aren't going to share a photo, it's difficult to suggest anything beyond what's been said already. The direction of light, the thickness of the fog, your distance from it - all can affect.

Fotoartist has shown two types of fog - and why he's unhappy with those, I don't know

Perhaps you were too close to the subjects? Is there anything darker in the image where increasing contrast would help? In my cow pasture pic below I did selective dodge and burn; the patchy fog was backlit by low-angle sun and also shows more because of the dark trees and hills. #2 was pea-soup thick. Depth is achieved by pp'ing foreground objects for darker tones and more color.





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Mar 20, 2019 18:48:24   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Bob Story wrote:
If these are valuable shots that you want to keep, I would like to take a stab at the fog problem in Photoshop. If you want to email one to me I'll try, and then let you know what I did.
bobstory12@yahoo.com
Bob, there is a private message system on UHH that allows photos to be attached (with "store original" option same as in threads). No need to reveal your email address. Don't you get enough spam already?

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Mar 20, 2019 19:12:19   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Ednsb wrote:
I was lucky enough to take a number of images the other day at a local harbor with fog drifting thru the masts but when I got home to process them nothing I did seemed to bring out the fog. I then did google searches and didn’t really find much other than a video using affinity by making a layer with a graduated filter with just color but that seemed like I was creating fog rather than highlighting. I tried a number of dehaze options inside Lightroom, On1 , Luminar and even Topaz Studio with nothing working.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
I was lucky enough to take a number of images the ... (show quote)


There are many ways of doing this. But there are also many different kinds of fog, so it is hard to suggest anything without knowing what kind of fog you've got, and what you are trying to do with it. We could help more if you would post some sample pictures.

I've used the built in LR brush for negative clarity, negative dehaze and whites for simple fixes.

But I get better results if I take an image into Photoshop and work on layers. I am not as familiar with the brushes and layers in the programs you listed, but in PS I would make a layer, paint on it with a brush that resembled the fog I'm trying to enhance, and work with masks, luminosity, and blending modes and even color, since many fogs have a color tint from the sun or sky bleeding through. I have also used texture layers of clouds masked over the fog at low opacity to enhance it. There are even fog brushes (I have some that I got free from somewhere) that can be used for this. I've not created fog from scratch but I have successfully enhanced fog that is present. One thing that I usually am battling, and that pushes me to do this on layers, is that enhancing contrast, clarity or sharpness tends to make fog look like digital noise, because it's sharpening the individual droplets that make up the fog. So adjustments work better if kept on layers where they don't have to affect the entire image.

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Mar 21, 2019 05:24:17   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Ednsb wrote:
I was lucky enough to take a number of images the other day at a local harbor with fog drifting thru the masts but when I got home to process them nothing I did seemed to bring out the fog. I then did google searches and didn’t really find much other than a video using affinity by making a layer with a graduated filter with just color but that seemed like I was creating fog rather than highlighting. I tried a number of dehaze options inside Lightroom, On1 , Luminar and even Topaz Studio with nothing working.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
I was lucky enough to take a number of images the ... (show quote)

I normally enhance fog/snow/smoke in Lightroom by reducing both the Clarity and Dehaze, and upping the brightness. A bit of trial and error should get you a reasonable result. Play with Contrast also.

bwa

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Mar 21, 2019 06:03:00   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Ednsb wrote:
I was lucky enough to take a number of images the other day at a local harbor with fog drifting thru the masts but when I got home to process them nothing I did seemed to bring out the fog. I then did google searches and didn’t really find much other than a video using affinity by making a layer with a graduated filter with just color but that seemed like I was creating fog rather than highlighting. I tried a number of dehaze options inside Lightroom, On1 , Luminar and even Topaz Studio with nothing working.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
I was lucky enough to take a number of images the ... (show quote)


Post a sample with store original checked.

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Mar 21, 2019 10:08:07   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I've shot all kinds of fog in all kinds of conditions. If you aren't going to share a photo, it's difficult to suggest anything beyond what's been said already. The direction of light, the thickness of the fog, your distance from it - all can affect.

Fotoartist has shown two types of fog - and why he's unhappy with those, I don't know

Perhaps you were too close to the subjects? Is there anything darker in the image where increasing contrast would help? In my cow pasture pic below I did selective dodge and burn; the patchy fog was backlit by low-angle sun and also shows more because of the dark trees and hills. #2 was pea-soup thick. Depth is achieved by pp'ing foreground objects for darker tones and more color.
I've shot all kinds of fog in all kinds of conditi... (show quote)


Linda,
The shot with the cows is very well done. I have made a choice to believe the patches of "mist" near the bovines is from breath and not methane.

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Mar 21, 2019 10:08:44   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Linda,
The shot with the cows is very well done. I have made a choice to believe the patches of "mist" near the bovines is from breath and not methane.

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Mar 21, 2019 10:24:19   #
Zario Loc: sacramento, CA
 
I think these 3 images of yours are really cool. I would be thrilled if I had shot them. Thank you for sharing them.

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Mar 21, 2019 10:30:51   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Fotoartist wrote:
For your purposes you would be using Dehaze (and Clarity for that manner) in the negative way. But selectively not globally I would think. Fog was harder to enhance than it sounded to me when I tried to do it which took me a while to work on but never worked out. Here's 3 examples I'm not that happy with.


Nothing wrong with those images! I’ve seen fog that looks just like that!

Stan

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Mar 21, 2019 10:32:28   #
WildThing Loc: Wisconsin
 
I love shooting fog pics ... I like to not have to do much in editing if possible. For me what works, is not focusing on the fog itself, but on something else in the shot. Like in this pic, the center of the road ...



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