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Mar 17, 2019 13:55:14   #
MiroFoto
 
I have asked some times ago … the people who use Nik P1000, what experience they have. I am trying to replace Nik 7100 w Tamron 16-300 mm . So , how do you feel about the picture quality -> long zoom and small sensor? I do not intent to produce prints. The 8x11 is my goal...max the double size. Is the RAW really a must . So far I did not post process my shots.

Oh, one more, does it have a back focus button - I just could not see it on the pictures.

Thank you. M

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Mar 17, 2019 14:37:46   #
a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
 
MiroFoto wrote:
I have asked some times ago … the people who use Nik P1000, what experience they have. I am trying to replace Nik 7100 w Tamron 16-300 mm . So , how do you feel about the picture quality -> long zoom and small sensor? I do not intent to produce prints. The 8x11 is my goal...max the double size. Is the RAW really a must . So far I did not post process my shots.

Oh, one more, does it have a back focus button - I just could not see it on the pictures.

Thank you. M


Miro, in our experience, the P1000 is better than the P900 in almost every way. The raw is nice but not necessary. The EVF is better. Compared to the P900 the only disadvantages are:

1. price
2. weight (+1 pound)
3. size, especially when using. the last 1000 mm.

Compared to my Sony RX10 and my Sony a6500 the dynamic range is much less and it's too easy to blow out a highlight but that is a necessary result of the tiny sensor. If you compare to other cameras with equal size sensors the P1000 is, IMHO, tops.

There is a "bird" selector on the top dial and it has some useful features that my wife really likes. That selection does not allow raw, btw.

If you want it for birds, buy it. If you don't need the extreme zoom then a camera with a larger sensor may give you better IQ (such as the RX10m4). The P1000 is a niche camera but a triumph of engineering within it's design choices.

Keep in mind that my "one inch" sensor with 4x the area, while having better IQ, can't match the IQ of the P1000 if the subject is so distant and/or small that the better sensor would have to be enlarged (cropped) too much. The "reach" of the P1000 is 5x that of the RX10m4 (600 vs 3000 virtual mm's). The Kingfisher I've attached is an example. It was too far away for me to get a decent image with my camera. My wife took it with the P1000.

In our experience, the pictures are better than with the P900 and we've made some 8x10 and 11x14 that are pretty good. I don't know about BB focus because we use the half-press shutter. I think you have a focus lock button on the side of the lens. You should download the manual and read up on it. You can do that for free.


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Mar 17, 2019 19:18:17   #
MiroFoto
 
Thank you very much. You gave me the info I needed. That bird is great - Definitely enough quality for me
You say focus lock on side - that is what holds the focus at work. I know, you can auto focus with half depressed shutter and then switch to manual focus ..but it is kind of clumsy . Focus lock is better.
Thanks again
Miro

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Mar 18, 2019 01:36:14   #
Stardust Loc: Central Illinois
 
Think a6k pretty well covered everything but one comment. I took my P1000 back-up camera to a St Patrick's parade today to get more experience with it. For practice before the parade I was zooming in on people almost a BLOCK away. When I got home and looked at photos I could read the brand on the side of one lady's sunglasses. That is sharp enough for me.

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Mar 18, 2019 07:37:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
a6k wrote:
The Kingfisher I've attached is an example. It was too far away for me to get a decent image with my camera. My wife took it with the P1000.


Very good quality.

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Mar 18, 2019 08:37:56   #
MiroFoto
 
Wow,
thank you for the comment. Miro

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Mar 18, 2019 09:51:25   #
ELNikkor
 
The P1000 is "overkill" in most cases. I would take a B700 over any of those larger Nikon 1/2.3 cameras.

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Mar 18, 2019 11:23:30   #
Labtrainer
 
I use my camera primary for birding. My Nikon 7200 and 150-600 lens we're just getting to heavy for me. The P1000 is great for birding as you can really zoom in and see the bird and verify a good focus. Pic quality is very good as there is usually little cropping required.

I also have the B700 and the P1000's view finder is 1000 times better. I can not use to the B700 for birding.

The one thing missing is back button focusing. Not sure why Nikon did not give us that ability.

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Mar 18, 2019 13:29:20   #
genocolo Loc: Vail and Gasparilla Island
 
a6k wrote:
Miro, in our experience, the P1000 is better than the P900 in almost every way. The raw is nice but not necessary. The EVF is better. Compared to the P900 the only disadvantages are:

1. price
2. weight (+1 pound)
3. size, especially when using. the last 1000 mm.

Compared to my Sony RX10 and my Sony a6500 the dynamic range is much less and it's too easy to blow out a highlight but that is a necessary result of the tiny sensor. If you compare to other cameras with equal size sensors the P1000 is, IMHO, tops.

There is a "bird" selector on the top dial and it has some useful features that my wife really likes. That selection does not allow raw, btw.

If you want it for birds, buy it. If you don't need the extreme zoom then a camera with a larger sensor may give you better IQ (such as the RX10m4). The P1000 is a niche camera but a triumph of engineering within it's design choices.

Keep in mind that my "one inch" sensor with 4x the area, while having better IQ, can't match the IQ of the P1000 if the subject is so distant and/or small that the better sensor would have to be enlarged (cropped) too much. The "reach" of the P1000 is 5x that of the RX10m4 (600 vs 3000 virtual mm's). The Kingfisher I've attached is an example. It was too far away for me to get a decent image with my camera. My wife took it with the P1000.

In our experience, the pictures are better than with the P900 and we've made some 8x10 and 11x14 that are pretty good. I don't know about BB focus because we use the half-press shutter. I think you have a focus lock button on the side of the lens. You should download the manual and read up on it. You can do that for free.
Miro, in our experience, the P1000 is better than ... (show quote)


Wow! How did she hold it so steady? Tripod?

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Mar 18, 2019 15:50:14   #
Labtrainer
 
I have never used a Tripod with my P1000. I shot this Gull at about 300 meters in our river. My wifes Nikon with a 600 mm lens could not really pull in the bird for ID. This shot is cropped quite a bit. The shot was handheld --I was sitting down. The picture was good enough to allow us to ID the bird. No way we could do that with the Nikon.



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Mar 18, 2019 18:07:54   #
a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
 
genocolo wrote:
Wow! How did she hold it so steady? Tripod?


Handheld, using screen, not viewfinder, afflicted with severe osteoarthritis. Amazing, isn't it?

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Mar 18, 2019 19:40:51   #
bobbyp7714 Loc: Orange MA
 
I bought a refurbished p1000 about two months ago. Currently I use it mostly for birding. I'm still trying to learn it's other features. I'm enjoying using this camera. It is not as heavy as I thought it would be. However it is a bit hard to use zoomed out hand held. Being 75 probably contributes to the problem.

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Mar 18, 2019 19:52:44   #
Mr Bill 2011 Loc: southern Indiana
 
MiroFoto wrote:
I have asked some times ago … the people who use Nik P1000, what experience they have. I am trying to replace Nik 7100 w Tamron 16-300 mm . So , how do you feel about the picture quality -> long zoom and small sensor? I do not intent to produce prints. The 8x11 is my goal...max the double size. Is the RAW really a must . So far I did not post process my shots.

Oh, one more, does it have a back focus button - I just could not see it on the pictures.

Thank you. M


Apparently the P-1000 works similar to my P-900. Instructions are on page 67 of P-1000 manual. No BBF, but if you switch to manual focus, pressing the exposure compensation control on the right side of the multi-controller gives auto-focus on the subject in the center of your screen. Let go of the exp. comp. button and the camera goes back to manual focus, effectively locking your focus right there. You can make minor adjustments to manual focus by using the controller dial or the button on the side of the lens. Half press on the shutter button does nothing because you are in manual focus. Click the OK button, and the multi controller reverts back to its normal features. It takes some practice; using the other buttons around the controller offer other features when in manual mode! On the P-900, the other buttons allow adjusting peaking and image magnification. Personally, I find the auto-focus is better than my eyes so I do it that way.

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Mar 18, 2019 20:33:11   #
davidb1879
 
Re: mirofoto (P1000): The P1000 weighs slightly over three pounds. I was very impressed with the Kingfisher. I would love to know how far away was the kingfisher. Also what was the focal length of the P1000 when the image was captured. Davidb1879.

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Mar 25, 2019 13:36:37   #
H-Blad Loc: USA
 
davidb1879 wrote:
Re: mirofoto (P1000): The P1000 weighs slightly over three pounds. I was very impressed with the Kingfisher. I would love to know how far away was the kingfisher. Also what was the focal length of the P1000 when the image was captured. Davidb1879.


This guy was over 150 meters away, still able to get an image that seemed, "right in his face"...Full zoom, (3000mm) is hard to hold and track steady. I personally use the "high speed drive" to capture images, then chose the best composition. Personally, I enjoy the P1000; I do have issues, like only 7 bursts limited on high speed drive, however I have over come this issue by capturing with 4K video and taking a still image from that. Even with a small sensor, and only 16Mps, I rate this model @ 8.5 out of 10...Cannot wait till the next model with a larger sensor & more Mps...



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