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Mar 19, 2019 00:50:12   #
MDI Mainer
 
Haydon wrote:
Take your 70-300 and use a flash. I shoot at an indoor butterfly conservatory a couple of times a year. Using a shorter lens can work if it's a macro but generally, using a little distance can discourage their flight. After the first year I started using off camera flash with a partner. Frequently, butterflies are nestled deeper into the flora and dragging the shutter with a longer lens will cause motion blur. Using a flash allows you to freeze the action and saturate colors.


I have been to half a dozen or so public butterfly gardens over the years but none of them ever allowed the use of flash.

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Mar 19, 2019 02:01:11   #
Haydon
 
MDI Mainer wrote:
I have been to half a dozen or so public butterfly gardens over the years but none of them ever allowed the use of flash.


Magic Wings Butterfly Conservatory
281 Greenfield Road
South Deerfield, MA 01373

I've been here at least a half a dozen times without issue.

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Mar 19, 2019 10:12:11   #
Betsy58
 
I just want to thank everyone for taking the time to share your knowledge with me.

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Mar 19, 2019 18:25:26   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Betsy58 wrote:
I just want to thank everyone for taking the time to share your knowledge with me.


So, after digesting the advice, both good and not as good, which lens have you decided to use?

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Mar 19, 2019 19:25:37   #
Betsy58
 
I am taking my trusty Nikon 55-300.

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Mar 19, 2019 19:40:23   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Betsy58 wrote:
I am taking my trusty Nikon 55-300.


Good choice...

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Mar 20, 2019 12:13:40   #
scsdesphotography Loc: Southeastern Michigan
 
A lot of good responses posted here, but as others have said, the OP's question was not about imaging butterflies, it was about doing that in a butterfly garden. I have been to several and their all set up pretty much the same. You follow a relatively narrow path through what amounts to a botanical garden full of different species of butterflies. Along with you are dozens of fellow spectators all taking pictures and posing with them sitting on their kids arms and heads. It's easy to get distracted, watch where you step!

So, do not bring a tripod or off camera flash set up. There is no room for a roller case either. In fact don't plan on using a flash at all, as they are not allowed in most places. Most of the time the little creatures will only be a few feet away or closer. Bring a fast short zoom, use a fast shutter speed, set a wide aperture and as high an ISO as you can get away with. Have fun, this is one of the more challenging environments to shoot in.

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Mar 20, 2019 12:34:05   #
Haydon
 
scsdesphotography wrote:
A lot of good responses posted here, but as others have said, the OP's question was not about imaging butterflies, it was about doing that in a butterfly garden. I have been to several and their all set up pretty much the same. You follow a relatively narrow path through what amounts to a botanical garden full of different species of butterflies. Along with you are dozens of fellow spectators all taking pictures and posing with them sitting on their kids arms and heads. It's easy to get distracted, watch where you step!

So, do not bring a tripod or off camera flash set up. There is no room for a roller case either. In fact don't plan on using a flash at all, as they are not allowed in most places. Most of the time the little creatures will only be a few feet away or closer. Bring a fast short zoom, use a fast shutter speed, set a wide aperture and as high an ISO as you can get away with. Have fun, this is one of the more challenging environments to shoot in.
A lot of good responses posted here, but as others... (show quote)


With all due respect, this off camera flash solution is not intrusive whatsoever. Avoiding higher ISO's & avoiding blurring from a longer shutter are surely a benefit. An added bonus is color saturation and depth by the proper light angle. Artificial light provides so many benefits that many simply discard as an option in their workflow. Images are all about light.



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Mar 20, 2019 12:46:30   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Haydon wrote:
With all due respect, this off camera flash solution is not intrusive whatsoever. Avoiding higher ISO's & avoiding blurring from a longer shutter are surely a benefit. An added bonus is color saturation and depth by the proper light angle. Artificial light provides so many benefits that many simply discard as an option in their workflow. Images are all about light.


It doesn't matter. If the flash and if using a tripod are banned from the venue, then they are banned. That is often the case.

Mike

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Mar 20, 2019 12:49:54   #
Haydon
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
It doesn't matter. If the flash and if using a tripod are banned from the venue, then they are banned. That is often the case.

Mike


And a little research is all it takes by phoning. My conservatory allows flash without issue and I've be going there for half a decade now.

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Mar 20, 2019 12:50:22   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Mac wrote:
Well he did say he was going to a butterfly garden and every butterfly garden I've been to has plants that attract butterflies and in those gardens the butterflies are at or near those plants and there have never been any barriers restricting proximity to the butterflies or the plants. For that reason I can't imagine the need for a long lens or anything more than his 17-70mm.


A longer lens gives a narrower field of view.

Mike

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Mar 20, 2019 12:58:26   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Haydon wrote:
And a little research is all it takes by phoning. My conservatory allows flash without issue and I've be going there for half a decade now.


That's great.

Mike

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Mar 24, 2019 10:39:38   #
Betsy58
 
I went to the butterfly exhibit. At the last minute, my friend asked to borrow a lens so I brought my Tamron 16-300 which I hadn't used in a couple of years. I also brought the Nikon 55-300. I ended up using both. It was crowded and soon discovered I had to keep backing up with the 55-300 to get a shot. I had a great time and hope to go back soon.


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Mar 27, 2019 12:22:50   #
scsdesphotography Loc: Southeastern Michigan
 
Betsy58 wrote:
I went to the butterfly exhibit. At the last minute, my friend asked to borrow a lens so I brought my Tamron 16-300 which I hadn't used in a couple of years. I also brought the Nikon 55-300. I ended up using both. It was crowded and soon discovered I had to keep backing up with the 55-300 to get a shot. I had a great time and hope to go back soon.



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