Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

I responded with this, but I do think it is so important that I removed his name but have copy/past the entire reply. It's long but answering the question(s) are actually vary necessary.



I guess I had better write some of this into a Forum Post, there are others asking the same question. Why? Because I can give you the simple short answer but what you want to know is much deeper.

So the short answer, imaginative women are in the arts. Yep, as simple as that!

Where can you find women that are available and want adult male encounters? School teachers. Not high school teachers, elementary and middle school teachers.

None of the above will help one dame bit because you obviously have no clue about the arts, lower grade school teachers and women in general. Lets start there then and help all you boys who grew up with a Mom and even sisters but never ever 'learned' from women. Here is your first crash course in women. That is, women who are looking for men who are not attached to a significant female.

This is soooo easy, but guys never get it. This is the female lioness hunting, because she does hunt and feed her mate. Where does the unattached female in our society go to hunt for men? Oh yes they do, they hunt for males and are much better at it than you boys. Women are cunning and they are not interested in Hollywood BS stories, nor the internet and such. And boys, every bit of the hunt is NOT in you favor or your advantage. This is the 'amazon' part of women, so be prepared to be hunted, be smart and set your snare to capture what you want.

The hunting ground is the large modern grocery store. Yes, as simple as that. It is never, ever Wall Mart or that sort of place. But you are a green horn and totally out of your depth in this hunt, but the Amazonian lionesses are on their game.

Do you understand how a modern grocery store is set up? Probably not. The outer edges are where the primary food stuffs. Vegetables are a place unto their own as is the meat arena, but these have their own special pit falls. The critical thing is to put items in your grocery cart (not the hand basket, ever) that speak about you. Bag of cat food or dog food, but never fish food. Leave the bear and wine out, period.

But where to stalk or be stalked, in the central isles. No self help, no engine oil or JB Weld or tape. Never go into the cosmetics isles as well as the baby isles, or the area of women's hygiene.

Timing and dress are super critical. Working clothes, like a suit, jacket in the car but with the tie still there but loose. You care what you look like. Off the cell phone, if answered, normal voice (men lower their speaking voice when speaking to their lover but not their mother or sister) remember you are being hunted! If you run into a woman you know, put the shopping cart between you and her, unless you want to connect. You remember meeting a guy who has his female in tow, your eyes meet his and without insulting him you tell him with your eyes and mouth that you are not interested in his female, you know what I'm talking about. By the way, vary few women pick up on this exchange between men. Just like you don't see the exchange between women.

What time? Evening to late evening, never late. Week days but not weekends. This is your time frame. Don't be quick but don't waste time either.

This is all real basic stuff. You have to know what your doing and choose when and when to go looking.

So, where to find women into fetish? First it is the arts.

Next it is international location called Fetlife (Fetish Life). It's out of Canada and it is like going back to high school. Silly and dumb, mostly childish. Take non of it as serious.

The find a big city location and go to events. You MUST go to these places and follow the rules, but most of all BE KOOL! Take NONE of it too seriously. Just have fun and log in your time, but be consistent. Start by just watching. Then sign up for events and learn the language. They are NOT tranies, they are other names (trans gender is like calling your willy a penis, it's not, but it could be a cock) , don't be afraid to learn. Reading books won't get it, but reading about the history will be helpful, in fact critical to fit into the fetish scene.

Here is a critical acid test that you must pass. You here someone mention 'Stonewall'. Do you know what Stonewall means? If you don't then you will be forever outside peering in to the world of fetish. What is Stonewall? What year? What changed? To speak to Stonewall, you really do need to know what 1969 as a time. The uprising of the political forms in France and especially Paris. The military insurrection of American troops in Viet Nam. The transformation of the US in world politics?

Stonewall, when gender bending forced the world view towards being queer and being proud of it! If you think the gay boys were at the heart od Stonewall, well then you will never understand how the battle was carried to the ramparts of society by the lesbian community, especially the dykes and bull dykes.

So when you hear Cher speak, or Jane Fonda, or the many other women who promote gender bending as a continuum of the women who have arisen up and demanded a new vision for the women's movement, the old suffragette movement you will never understand how women in this new century are forging a new vision for women and men. Women like VADA and Jenny KNOX are the modern standard barriers for both men and women who will no longer go along with the sleepy notion that women can't have women and male lovers, they want both, and as it was said back in the 60's, "Your either part of the solution or part of the problem". You choose.

An addition, I'm placing images to keep this on the HOG Naughty area because that is what I'm responding to.

Cristi thinking about that laxa lamp.

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Cristi and VADA in the Peep Show

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Beltane with VADA.

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Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis

I received a similar PM last week, looked like a scam to me. I did not respond.
The pm began Hi sweetie Etc. email me at #########.

PaulG Loc: Western Australia

Got to ask... how long did it take you to write that?

Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

And check the spelling. Aren’t you the guy with the MFA, the TERMINAL degree?

Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana

Sorry; too long to read it all.

scsdesphotography Loc: Southeastern Michigan

Wow, Timmers, quite an educational, if somewhat aggressive post on the subject. For those who thought it was a bit too long to read, I'll summarize. If your looking for models to image Timmers style, first learn about the lifestyle by spending some quality time on the Fetlife web site. Next go to your local grocery store (follow Timmers shopping cart advice), position yourself as prey and watch the hunters approach. But the thing is, you're not prey, you are a trapper hoping to snare the predator! Happy trapping all.

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

I am a guy with an MFA. I am also dyslexic, have a brain trained in logic by the classic roots of the past (Latin), and MOST important, I have a lack of internal dialogue. All of these things/conditions create a rather original creative outlook on the world of samsara (the world of illusion).

I don't concern myself with a failure to spell as is the standard construct of an agreed social structure, I can't, my brain is not wired like yours and most of the American/English speaking world. It is something that I can not achieve. I'm what is referenced as an American with disability. That is the world/reality that you live in. I live in a different universe. I am quite happy in my world, I hope you are pleased to live in yours.

Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana

That was eloquent.

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

I am, thank you.

I had many dyslectic students in my forty years of teaching; they could learn to spell correctly if they choose to work hard at it. Of course, there were those who didn’t care . . . .

Lens Cap Loc: The Cold North Coast

I found your post to be enlightening. Thanks for taking the time to post!

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

Actually, most of the people living in the illusion of reality, as the land of India calls it samsara, spend much of their lives living without certain basic understandings of the tools needed to navigate in this place. I was surprised by a conversation with my younger brother about this but upon reflection I understood that I needed to help him understand the modern undercurrent of modern life.

When I work with women I give them bits and pieces of short reality checks that help them come to terms with possibilities for exploring what they want to discover about themselves. Tankan separately the single items will not help much, but when understood as a whole these aspects will guide one to a better grasp of what your potential is and how you can develop a cohesive response to the what you are. Nothing happens in a vacuum is a good beginning.

Here are a few of this wonderful insights. All the human beings fit into one of two categories, you are either a leader or a follower. What is not told to you is that when you have a decent sized sample the leaders/followers are divided unequally. For every leader there are four followers. Put another way, in a large sampling of people 20% are leaders while 80% are followers.

Ever herd of the Russian researcher who trained dogs to salivate when they herd a bell rung because they were conditioned to respond to the bell to indicate when the dog was to be fed. This manner of conditioning is done to all modern humans by mother. Women see to it that as a new born the baby is presented to the world multiple times fully dressed. Oddly enough this conditioning centers on the feet, as in shoes (foot covering) for both men and women. From this conditioning we develop the notion that when you have your shoes on you believe that you are dressed. In basic terms you can say that a person is not dressed unless they wear shoes. Turn it around to the most simplistic state, when you are wearing shoes, and only shoes you perceive yourself to be dressed.

Marcel Duchamp put forward a rather odd statement that seems to befuddle many people, "You can see seeing, you can't hear hearing." It goes to one of the deep perceptions that we have about modern life. You hear a recording of yourself speaking. The recording is played back for you to hear and you say that it does not sound like you, and yet many people agree that in fact it sounds exactly like you. No matter the explanation(s) and the times you are told of the accuracy of the recordings you never believe that the recording is correct.

This seeing and hearing is two fold; you see your reflection in a mirror and you recognize that it is you. You have herd the statement that you have a good side and a bad side. More correctly, one side is the 'who' you recognize as 'you' while the other side seems some how different, not really you. Now get out a sheet of blank cardboard, stand in front of a mirror and cover one side of your face (divide your face vertically down the center of your nose and forehead/chin) with the cardboard. After a while change the card stock to cover the other side of your face. Which side of your face do you sense is the side you think looks most like the 'you' that you think you are? This is your dominant side. What about the side that you sense is not entirely 'you' of your self perception.

We are told to show our dominant side in our dealings with the world. This is true about people who model and act for a living. But that dominant side is in fact your cultivated social side. That is all it is. The other side is as well part of yourself. In the individual this is perhaps another side of the 'you', a side you don't use as much, especially in the normal world of the social environment.

Now take what we have seen in these aspects of personality and apply them in the context of ourselves as a persona. I know, what is the point of this? If you know who you are and how you are perceived you can alter or adjust how the world perceives who we are.

Many of the readers of my writing on the HOG are getting to know me, Tim. More than just a name Tim, I'm a guy who can be known through the images that I put on the HOG. Some people regard me as a complete ass, while others are entertained by what is often a certain lunacy but also an open presentation of my thoughts and feelings. Some even enjoy the bawdy frankness of my pleasure and delight with women that are naughty. I don't regard women, or any one woman as a slut, but I do love it when they act out slutty behavior. If I was a woman I would be the same way not wanting to be seen as a slut but boy would I be ever so slutty!

To finally answer that secret about what do I look for in a woman, what makes certain women the sort of women that I work with? That is soooo easy, I look for women who have a frat boy inside but are sporting a woman's body. They like to get down and naughty with other women because that are the 20% leaders in our society. They LOVE to have sex and love to dominate a man or woman. They want to be desired but equally want to take control and be the aggressor. BUT, they do not want to be perceived as a slut, or 'easy', a hooker or such. There in lies the balance. The solution is extremely easy, I see that there is always a balance struck between the two safe worlds, that of ART and the world of 'pretty-pretty princess'.

I know, HUGH? If you want your taxes done go seek out a CPA. If you get a SWI go find a lawyer. If you are feeling puny go see a doctor. If you want kool alternative life styles go find the arts, don't go to a strip joint, strippers don't know about art, they know a CPA and CPAs don't know about art either!

The guy who asked where do I find the women who model for me, who are alternative life style women, they are were the arts are. They don't need to be artists like the woman shown below, Mary, she was studying in the Business School at UTSA. But she hug out with artists because they were kool and hip, unlike the guys in the business school.

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Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

Yep, they learned that dyslexia was a disability and they overcame that disability. Bravo!
You see I'm dyslexic and I don't 'overcome' it, I use the difference in perception to understand what I can do with this tool dyslexia. I can not take and construct a work in three dimensional space, not in pieces so as to build something. But I can visualize that construct and 'see' it for what it's potential is as a 3D object. From there I can understand it's thingness and then decide if I can utilize it as a symbolic form.

Here is a great question for you if you like, did you or they realize that the cycling of the moon effects their ability to control the dyslexia? Some four days after the full moon I have the most trouble with issues like spelling of words,

or as Blake stated "To see a World in a Grain of Sand..."

Spelling like sand runs the course through the hour glass of our lives, yet that life to have meaning is more than the order of 24 founts neatly running in rows, if there is to have meaning.

Below, Holly a doctor, who has a deep and abiding love of the arts.

sb Loc: Florida's East Coast

I have always found that when I venture into the grocery store on a Friday evening that I feel like the meat in the meat market - getting a look-over by quite a few ladies. Some with nice melons (sorry - just had to throw in that pun!). Could have said "buns" I suppose.

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

Typing something like that takes an insane amount of time.

Here is the thing, I really do have internal dialogue. This means that I think an abstract thought, then I hold that 'notion' and the writing just flows out.

Yes, I need an editor to help organize what flows out into more coherent form of information.