Full Frame, 1.5 crop or 1.6 crop?
Mar 7, 2019 10:32:09 #
dsmeltz wrote:
Yet you, with over 1,000 pointless comments, continue to provide uselessness to a most amazing degree.
"A wise person is always seeking better information. A fool simply criticizes the question." Which do you think you are?
(That question is rhetorical since the answer is obvious)
"A wise person is always seeking better information. A fool simply criticizes the question." Which do you think you are?
(That question is rhetorical since the answer is obvious)
Poor baby. Is it time for your bottle and nap. Grow up!!
Mar 7, 2019 10:33:01 #
suntouched wrote:
Jeez people- did everyone forget to take their antidepressants today!!
If it was me I would not take a zoom but rather a fast, lightweight 50 mm lens and capture what
I could with that lens on my full frame camera. Have fun.
If it was me I would not take a zoom but rather a fast, lightweight 50 mm lens and capture what
I could with that lens on my full frame camera. Have fun.
Suntouched,
Nice suggestion. The 60mm is cool, too.
The “hedgehogs” were feeling Ugly today. Sorry, but I could not stop laughing.
Pila
Mar 7, 2019 10:38:04 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
The wife and I are going to the big flower show in... (show quote)
UNBELIEVABLE! You own all of that high end gear and you need to ask someone else what to use. I suggest, learning to use what you have. That question will then answer itself!!!
Mar 7, 2019 10:43:19 #
repleo wrote:
If anybody actually read the original post you will note that the OP did not ask for any advice or opinions. He just stated he was undecided which of his numerous 'toys' to bring.
Nevertheless, there are lessons to be learned from this thread.
1. READ the post.
2. Note the dangers of having too much gear. It can lead to confusion and indecision and looking at the OP's previous posts, it doesn't do much for your photography either.
Nevertheless, there are lessons to be learned from this thread.
1. READ the post.
2. Note the dangers of having too much gear. It can lead to confusion and indecision and looking at the OP's previous posts, it doesn't do much for your photography either.
The dangers of too much gear are duly noted. Alternatively, one might consider leaving the gear at home, doing a “number” , and simply enjoy the colors at the show.Head phones optional.
Pila
Mar 7, 2019 10:57:40 #
Kozan
Loc: Trenton Tennessee
Pablo8 wrote:
You've been to this show 23 times, and still don't know what equipment works best?
My thoughts exactly.
Mar 7, 2019 11:32:05 #
Pablo8 wrote:
If I was in that quandary, I would make up my own mind...……. or not bother going. I see your occupation is listed as analyst. (?) Good at your job?
I'm retired. Thank you for the thoughtful and absolutely mindlessly useless response.
Good on you!
If I was in that quandary, I would make up my own mind...……. or not bother going. I see your occupation is listed as analyst. (?) Good at your job?
I'm retired. Thank you for the thoughtful and absolutely mindlessly useless response.
Good on you!
Mar 7, 2019 11:38:23 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I'm retired. Thank you for the thoughtful and absolutely mindlessly useless response.
Good on you rmorrison1116!
Mar 7, 2019 11:49:45 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
rmorrison1116 wrote:
The wife and I are going to the big flower show in... (show quote)
I'd buy a Canon EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM and use it on the 5DIV. That lens is 1/2 the length and 1/3 the weight of the 28-300mm. The 24-70mm is almost 2.5 lb. lighter than the 28-300mm.
The 24-70mm should be plenty long focal length to photograph flowers. And it's able to do a pretty amazing .70X magnification, all on its own.... almost 3/4 life size and probably higher magnification than you will need for flowers. It's also more than double the best magnification the 28-300mm can do (.30X).
In comparison, to use the 28-300mm on the M50 instead of the 5DIV would save only about 1 lb. weight, a little bit of which would be given back because you'd need to add an adapter to be able to fit the lens to the camera. Also, using the 28-300mm on an APS-C camera gives you a "normal to super telephoto", instead of the "moderately wide, normal, telephoto" that focal length range serves as on full frame. This problem is the same using 28-300m on either M50 or D7200... there's not a lot of difference between 1.5X and 1.6X crop. However, using the Nikkor 28-300mm saves some weight. It's also considerably lighter than the Canon 28-300L. But there is NO WAY the D7200 is "better at high ISO, low light" than the 5DIV.
5D Mark IV with EF 28-300mm L lens: 890 grams + 1670 grams = 90.3 ounces (5.5 lb. )
M50 with adapter & EF 28-300mm L lens: 385 grams + 85 grams + 1670 grams = 75.48 ounces (4.7 lb.)
D7200 with Nikkor 28-300mm: 765 grams + 800 grams = 55.34 ounces (3.25 lb.)
....versus...
5D Mark IV with EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM lens: 890 grams + 600 grams = 52.56 ounces (3.28 lb.)
An alternative choice for use with the 5DIV would be the Canon EF 24-105L IS USM "II", however that lens is not as close focusing, costs $200 more than the 24-70 and weighs about 6 or 7 ounces more, too.
The lightest option of all... Didn't the M50 come with a lens? It's usually sold with one or two kit lenses. The EF-M 15-45mm is very light at 145 grams. The EF-M 55-200mm often sold as the second lens in the kit weighs 260 grams. In other words, BOTH those lenses weigh less than any one of the above lenses. At the same time, the M50 weighs about half or less what the DSLRs do.
One of the problems with "do everything" zooms like the 28-300mm is their size and weight. Basically when one of those is your only lens, you are stuck carrying the beast around all the time.
One of the problems with owning multiple camera systems is that you end up with two (or more) half-arse kits rather than one relatively complete one.
Mar 7, 2019 13:46:52 #
Mar 7, 2019 13:59:53 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
The wife and I are going to the big flower show in... (show quote)
1.5x, 1.6x crop virtually little difference, and brand thing only. Flowers, 50mm Macro (prime) or 100mm/105mm Macro (prime), what else is there?!!! Your 5D IV has no crop factor other than 1X. Also sneak in a tripod so you can get studio sharp images! Or better, find flowers and bring them home for close-ups! I have different lenses for different needs.
Mar 7, 2019 15:36:15 #
Mar 7, 2019 16:20:06 #
Mar 7, 2019 16:21:06 #
Pablo8 wrote:
If I was in that quandary, I would make up my own mind...……. or not bother going. I see your occupation is listed as analyst. (?) Good at your job?
Wow, what a great response!
Mar 7, 2019 16:22:59 #
Largobob wrote:
I don't know you, so this comment is unfair of me. But, since I don't know you, your post seems more like you just want everyone to know what optical toys you own, rather than actually being interested in feedback. I believe any of the equipment you bloated about will do a fine job, if you do your part.
Wow, ask for a recommendation based on what to have and get accused of being a braggert. Only in UHH.
Mar 7, 2019 16:26:48 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
The equipment I listed is maybe one tenth of what I actually own. My reason for posting was to gather objective opinions to aid in my decision. One thing I have gathered from this is, some of you really can't help yourselves. Probably just miserable grumpy old men with the minds of juvenile delinquents.
Just ignore them. They are probably jealous because they can only afford a point and shoot.
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