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Feb 27, 2019 08:48:38   #
rond-photography Loc: Connecticut
 
User ID wrote:
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Amen from this corner !

Peeps hand me a phone to make their picture
like they would hand me a P&S years ago. The
P&S were easy. The phone OTOH is very hard
to hold and I accidentally hit those buttons all
around edge ... or the photo app times out or
trying to touch the focus or the shutter button
makes the device freak out ....

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Met a guy who makes the shot for the peeps, then switches to selfie mode and does a selfie (which he does not mention and they find out later). Hee Hee!

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Feb 27, 2019 09:50:01   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
rond-photography wrote:
Met a guy who makes the shot for the peeps, then switches to selfie mode and does a selfie (which he does not mention and they find out later). Hee Hee!


What is "peeps"???

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Feb 27, 2019 10:06:19   #
BebuLamar
 
markjay wrote:
Yes - I guess that a cellphone is more difficult than a DSLR.


A cell phone is much more difficult to use as camera than a typical DSLR. When I tried to use the Samsung S8, I first had problem finding the camera app. And then when I hold the camera I often touch something that causes the camera app to go into the background. I had to find it again. When I tapped on the release lot of time it doesn't take the picture.
Besides when I have problem with things like backlight or spotlight subject I don't know how to adjust the exposure. I don't know if I have sufficient shutter speed for hand holding. The phone seems to want to slide off my hand when I use it in landscape orientation.

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Feb 27, 2019 10:19:19   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
TriX wrote:
What exactly is boorish (note the correct spelling) and pompous about telling the truth and reciting easily demonstrated facts? Don’t agree with the assertions? Then let’s have a civil discourse and post some proof to the contrary; but if you can’t and are going to resort to name calling, then at least get the spelling correct. How’s that for pompous?

Thank you for correcting my mistake. I'm sure it made your day. I think I will add arrogant to my assessment of your judgment on things that are contrary to your boorish and pompous belief.

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Feb 27, 2019 12:02:23   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
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Feb 27, 2019 12:10:00   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Besides from the obvious drawbacks of the cellphone vs the DSLR the biggest problem for me with the cellphone is that it's too damn difficult to use.


WHAT???
Bill

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Feb 27, 2019 12:49:52   #
BebuLamar
 
newtoyou wrote:
WHAT???
Bill


I posted above but if you didn't read it I post it again here

A cell phone is much more difficult to use as camera than a typical DSLR. When I tried to use the Samsung S8, I first had problem finding the camera app. And then when I hold the camera I often touch something that causes the camera app to go into the background. I had to find it again. When I tapped on the release lot of time it doesn't take the picture.
Besides when I have problem with things like backlight or spotlight subject I don't know how to adjust the exposure. I don't know if I have sufficient shutter speed for hand holding. The phone seems to want to slide off my hand when I use it in landscape orientation.

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Feb 27, 2019 14:50:55   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
BebuLamar wrote:
A cell phone is much more difficult to use as camera than a typical DSLR. When I tried to use the Samsung S8, I first had problem finding the camera app. And then when I hold the camera I often touch something that causes the camera app to go into the background. I had to find it again. When I tapped on the release lot of time it doesn't take the picture.
Besides when I have problem with things like backlight or spotlight subject I don't know how to adjust the exposure. I don't know if I have sufficient shutter speed for hand holding. The phone seems to want to slide off my hand when I use it in landscape orientation.
A cell phone is much more difficult to use as came... (show quote)


Check out Emil Pakarklis videos on YouTube. He covers the iPhone but much of it relates to all the others. He has a brief segment on how to hold them for taking pictures, difficult to describe but it works quite well to help hold it steady.

There’s a payed app called ProCamera that gives you full manual control and allows shooting in RAW.

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Feb 27, 2019 15:06:20   #
BebuLamar
 
gvarner wrote:
Check out Emil Pakarklis videos on YouTube. He covers the iPhone but much of it relates to all the others. He has a brief segment on how to hold them for taking pictures, difficult to describe but it works quite well to help hold it steady.

There’s a payed app called ProCamera that gives you full manual control and allows shooting in RAW.


Well I don't have the patient to learn how to use the camera phone. My DSLR and even my film SLR's work just fine and so easy even when I use the Minolta SRT-101 without meter.

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Feb 27, 2019 15:11:04   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
gvarner wrote:
Check out Emil Pakarklis videos on YouTube. He covers the iPhone but much of it relates to all the others. He has a brief segment on how to hold them for taking pictures, difficult to describe but it works quite well to help hold it steady.

There’s a payed app called ProCamera that gives you full manual control and allows shooting in RAW.


https://iphonephotographyschool.com/iphone-photography-tips/
His website is pretty good, those tips apply to any camera and are worth reading.

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Feb 27, 2019 16:59:25   #
crushr13 Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
anotherview wrote:
Recently, I bought a smart phone to replace my flip phone. I've used the camera in the smart phone to take a few pictures. They simply do not measure up to the pictures from a DSLR. And I never expected them to do so.
A smart phone camera takes good snapshots. That's about the size of it.


Yes, but now cell phones are coming out with cameras with a lot of the capabilities of DSLRs. You can shoot RAW with them, you can make many of the manual adjustments with many of them, and they are only just now starting to get these capabilities. They are getting better and should improve with time. Some photographers are saying to "take the shot with the camera that you have with you", and many times that is a cell phone.

But then again, a smartphone (or maybe even a "smarttablet") with camera is like a portable pocket computer system, where you can do almost anything with it that you can do on a computer, it is just a matter of having the apps to do these things. Cameras are now a part of that, and soon enough one may (almost) be able to take as good a shot with a smartphone as you can with a camera. Pro DSLRs (and Pro type mirrorless cameras) may always do a better job, for those who really want near perfection in a shot. But these smartphones with prime cameras are doing a great job now with something one will have with them to take a good shot. Also, it may get even more people into the photography arena, which can be pretty good.

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Feb 28, 2019 09:35:25   #
hcmcdole
 
Phone cameras have come a long way in a few short years. I didn't want to use mine in the past from my iPhone 3S to my next phones - Samsung Note and then Note 4, as they were more a toy than serious cameras (IMO) - I used them just for rare photo-ops when I didn't have a "real camera" with me.

Today I use my Samsung Note 8 quite a bit when I am in the yard, the basement (have a few hundred plants under lights that are always changing, blooming), shopping, or on the trail. The only fault I see is the zoom feature. Halfway out is fine but zoom out much past that and the pictures are often ready for the trash bin, so sometimes I carry a superzoom hoping to see the elusive great blue heron on the river.

I recently bought the DJI Osmo gimbal for the phone to keep the camera fairly level and smooth as I hike - I am still trying to figure it out as I missed a full 10 minutes of recording the last time I used it. Guess I thought the red button meant it was recording but it wasn't. (I am using the DJI app for using with the gimbal).

Younger people use their phones all the time to record/shoot anything and everything just to post online for friends and family. The selfies is what gets me - Kim K. is probably most responsible for this vanity.

My wife took a panorama in Thailand last summer with her iPhone 8 and I had it printed to a 12 x 36 size and that was after setting it to the biggest size for panorama at Shutterfly (could've gone a lot bigger according to PS CC). Looks quite good from a little smart phone. I won't give up my DSLR or any other camera but the smart phone camera is here to stay and is quite good.


IMO, it is no longer a toy or a gimmick, but a great lightweight alternative to use as we see fit.

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Feb 28, 2019 10:02:00   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
hcmcdole wrote:
Phone cameras have come a long way in a few short years. I didn't want to use mine in the past from my iPhone 3S to my next phones - Samsung Note and then Note 4, as they were more a toy than serious cameras (IMO) - I used them just for rare photo-ops when I didn't have a "real camera" with me.

Today I use my Samsung Note 8 quite a bit when I am in the yard, the basement (have a few hundred plants under lights that are always changing, blooming), shopping, or on the trail. The only fault I see is the zoom feature. Halfway out is fine but zoom out much past that and the pictures are often ready for the trash bin, so sometimes I carry a superzoom hoping to see the elusive great blue heron on the river.

I recently bought the DJI Osmo gimbal for the phone to keep the camera fairly level and smooth as I hike - I am still trying to figure it out as I missed a full 10 minutes of recording the last time I used it. Guess I thought the red button meant it was recording but it wasn't. (I am using the DJI app for using with the gimbal).

Younger people use their phones all the time to record/shoot anything and everything just to post online for friends and family. The selfies is what gets me - Kim K. is probably most responsible for this vanity.

My wife took a panorama in Thailand last summer with her iPhone 8 and I had it printed to a 12 x 36 size and that was after setting it to the biggest size for panorama at Shutterfly (could've gone a lot bigger according to PS CC). Looks quite good from a little smart phone. I won't give up my DSLR or any other camera but the smart phone camera is here to stay and is quite good.


IMO, it is no longer a toy or a gimmick, but a great lightweight alternative to use as we see fit.
Phone cameras have come a long way in a few short ... (show quote)


My sentiments exactly.

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Feb 28, 2019 15:05:54   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Well I don't have the patient to learn how to use the camera phone. My DSLR and even my film SLR's work just fine and so easy even when I use the Minolta SRT-101 without meter.


Turn on the cellphone.
Select the camera app.
Turn shinney part to the subject.
When in focus press button.
Wow ...I think I have to take a rest.

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Mar 1, 2019 09:38:18   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
I just recently bought my first smart cellular telephone with a camera feature. I too find the camera awkward to operate. The shutter lag can run to 1 or 2 seconds. How to hold the camera while pressing the virtual shutter button presents a physical difficulty. Often, I inadvertently touch something that causes the camera feature to change to a different "app" (application). Evidently, the phone has no option for locking the camera in shooting mode. I suppose a page exists where I might find all settings for camera operation, to customize it, but I haven't unearthed it yet. I find myself on the learning curve.

I do like the text feature because I do 100s of text messages per month.
BebuLamar wrote:
A cell phone is much more difficult to use as camera than a typical DSLR. When I tried to use the Samsung S8, I first had problem finding the camera app. And then when I hold the camera I often touch something that causes the camera app to go into the background. I had to find it again. When I tapped on the release lot of time it doesn't take the picture.
Besides when I have problem with things like backlight or spotlight subject I don't know how to adjust the exposure. I don't know if I have sufficient shutter speed for hand holding. The phone seems to want to slide off my hand when I use it in landscape orientation.
A cell phone is much more difficult to use as came... (show quote)

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