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Feb 24, 2019 13:17:07   #
Red Sky At Night
 
If I am purchasing a new AF-S Nikkor 200-500 lens to go with my D850 do I need to also purchase a teleconverter? I've been trying to read some information online but I am confused if it is something I really need? I will be using it both for animals and landscape. Thank you.

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Feb 24, 2019 13:19:53   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Red Sky At Night wrote:
If I am purchasing a new AF-S Nikkor 200-500 lens to go with my D850 do I need to also purchase a teleconverter? I've been trying to read some information online but I am confused if it is something I really need? I will be using it both for animals and landscape. Thank you.

I have and use my Nikon 200-500 without a teleconverter. Reason you can expect some image quality degradation.

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Feb 24, 2019 13:22:17   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Only if you want to.

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Feb 24, 2019 13:31:43   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
You can purchase one (check Nikon's website for compatibility) but understand with the 1.4TC it will be F8 and with a 2.0TC it will be F11. Focus speed will be affected as will brightness in the viewfinder. I don't remember any Nikon bodies that will AF at less than F8. I use my copy of this lens without any additions. Best of Luck.

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Feb 24, 2019 13:42:59   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
In my opinion, teleconverters don't work well with zooms. In addition to the focusing issues others have mentioned, they often produce a generally "soft" look - I like them tack sharp.

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Feb 24, 2019 13:43:47   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Red Sky At Night wrote:
If I am purchasing a new AF-S Nikkor 200-500 lens to go with my D850 do I need to also purchase a teleconverter? I've been trying to read some information online but I am confused if it is something I really need? I will be using it both for animals and landscape. Thank you.


My opinion is, because you are on full frame - and that means you need all the focal length you can get and because the 850 will AF @ f8, that a 1.4 X would be very valuable and doable especially in good light. Keep in mind tho, with the 1.4X and the high MP count of the 850, your requirements for stability will be very HIGH. And, since the tripod collar is highly compromised, I recommend you get and use a long lens auxillary stabilizer like this - especially when using the TC - https://www.ebay.com/itm/220mm-Y-ty-Telephoto-Lens-Support-Clamp-for-Arca-Hejnar-Benro-Fluid-Video-Head/172143858639?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l9372

Please also understand, that especially in lower light situations, and again because of the high MP count - that you would be better off loosing the TC and just CROPPING and using well applied pixel enlargement software for larger printings.

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Feb 24, 2019 14:00:04   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
imagemeister wrote:
My opinion is, because you are on full frame - and that means you need all the focal length you can get and because the 850 will AF @ f8, that a 1.4 X would be very valuable and doable especially in good light. Keep in mind tho, with the 1.4X and the high MP count of the 850, your requirements for stability will be very HIGH. And, since the tripod collar is highly compromised, I recommend you get and use a long lens auxillary stabilizer like this - especially when using the TC - https://www.ebay.com/itm/220mm-Y-ty-Telephoto-Lens-Support-Clamp-for-Arca-Hejnar-Benro-Fluid-Video-Head/172143858639?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l9372

Please also understand, that especially in lower light situations, and again because of the high MP count - that you would be better off loosing the TC and just CROPPING and using well applied pixel enlargement software for larger printings.

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My opinion is, because you are on full frame - and... (show quote)


Just a reminder: You DON'T get any more "Focal Length" on a Crop Sensor camera, just a reduced angle-of-view. Focusing and viewing at F8 will be compromised as well! Best of luck.

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Feb 24, 2019 14:36:42   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
My teleconverter is a D5600. You can get a refurb D5600 orerlier model for the price Nikon wants for their 1.4 teleconverter. And there are other advantages.

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Feb 24, 2019 15:18:21   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
cjc2 wrote:
Just a reminder: You DON'T get any more "Focal Length" on a Crop Sensor camera, just a reduced angle-of-view.


Same thing.

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Feb 24, 2019 15:20:46   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Red Sky At Night wrote:
If I am purchasing a new AF-S Nikkor 200-500 lens to go with my D850 do I need to also purchase a teleconverter? I've been trying to read some information online but I am confused if it is something I really need? I will be using it both for animals and landscape. Thank you.

You do not need to use a teleconverter. As OP have said, you decrease light coming in, and slow down shutter speed. The primary reason for using one would be if the 500mm reach is not enough. Also, I have heard that the 1.4x is ok to use if you are happy with how it affects things, but the 2.0x is even more detrimental to performance.

I recently purchased the 200-500, and like it a lot. There will always be situations where I wish it had more magnification, but cropping is an option with which I am comfortable. The other alternative is the Sigma 150-600mm Sport, if you can handle the extra weight and smaller maximum aperture. After that, you are getting into very big dollar amounts! Give your D850 a chance - with all those pixels cropping won't be a problem.

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Feb 24, 2019 16:25:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
cjc2 wrote:
Just a reminder: You DON'T get any more "Focal Length" on a Crop Sensor camera, just a reduced angle-of-view. Focusing and viewing at F8 will be compromised as well! Best of luck.

Then why do they say that a 50mm on a <1.6>crop sensor is like an 80mm on a full frame?
Seems like more "perceived" reach to me.

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Feb 24, 2019 16:38:28   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Red Sky At Night wrote:
If I am purchasing a new AF-S Nikkor 200-500 lens to go with my D850 do I need to also purchase a teleconverter? I've been trying to read some information online but I am confused if it is something I really need? I will be using it both for animals and landscape. Thank you.


Fuhgeddaboudit

The D850 in DX mode puts about the same number of pixels on the subject as a D500 with the 'field of view' of a 750mm. That should be enough for just about any situation.

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Feb 24, 2019 16:44:56   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Red Sky At Night wrote:
If I am purchasing a new AF-S Nikkor 200-500 lens to go with my D850 do I need to also purchase a teleconverter? I've been trying to read some information online but I am confused if it is something I really need? I will be using it both for animals and landscape. Thank you.

There is not much of a difference, TC's work just as good with zooms than they do with primes!

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Feb 24, 2019 17:26:40   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
> Seems like more "perceived" reach to me.< That IS the description!
Print a FF picture from a 50mm "normal" lens. That picture is @ what you see looking forward.
A crop sensor displays @ 60% of the center of that picture. It's smaller.
BUT! If you print that 60% to the same size as the FF print, it looks bigger. "LOOKS" bigger.
Makes sense? Family photo, 4x6 picture. You want to dispose of a little foreground, a little sky, and that fugly in-law on the right. Print that 60% cropped selection as a 4x6, it looks bigger. Next smaller sensor: Take that crop. There's a couple hotties posing on the left. Cut out the third of the picture on the right, and print landscape. They look bigger. The smaller the sensor, the smaller the piece of that FF view is used.
I have a medium format lens screwed onto a Nikon FF adapter bolted onto my D80. What do I get?

Back to the lens. I *like* using my 1.4x TC. It's small. Having one in my bag basically doubles the effective number of lenses on hand. That 50mm is a 70, that 70-210 gets @ a 300mm reach.
But there's more stuff in the way. It's at least a stop slower. AF gets slower. Focus itself- is sometimes softer.
A TC on a 500mm- you really need the reach of a 740 at f8? I doubt my ability to hand hold action shots with that. I'd suggest outside, sunny day, tripod, slow/still subjects.

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Feb 24, 2019 17:31:24   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Bill_de wrote:
Fuhgeddaboudit

The D850 in DX mode puts about the same number of pixels on the subject as a D500 with the 'field of view' of a 750mm. That should be enough for just about any situation.

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When you put a lens on a crop sensor nothing, optically, changes. The angle-of-view is different. Best of luck.

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