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Feb 16, 2019 17:26:05   #
xptom Loc: Concord, CA
 
For the past 5 years I have been printing at home with a Canon Pro 100 printer using Canon's Print Studio Pro plugin for Photoshop with outstanding results. Last week there was a discussion about which paper is the best. Someone mentioned using Costco (Kirkland) paper. They make great hot dogs and pizza so I gave it a try. To my surprise the results were stunning, no difference between Canon and Costco papers --- except for cost: 20 sheet pack Canon 8 1/2 x 11 glossy from Amazon = $7.99 > $.40/sheet; 150 sheet pack Kirkland 8 1/2 x 11 glossy from Costco = $24.95 > $.17/sheet. Don't know about durability, but I'm sure they will outlast me. BTW, I did do a comparison of the two papers using the "Print" mode for Photoshop. The prints came out the same, but not as vibrant as with Print Studio Pro.

I have also wrestled with the problem as have many with getting prints just right. For what its worth my print settings for Print Studio Pro using Relative Colorimetric Intent: Brightness = +20, Contrast = +10, Cyan =+10, Magenta = -5, Yellow = -5. Note: Have not seen much difference between Relative Colormetric and Perspective Intents.

Intent Definitions - Per the Photoshop Print Dialog

Perceptual - Aims to preserve the visual relationship between color so it's perceived as natural to the human eye, even though the color values themselves may change. This intent is suitable for photographic images with out-of-gamut colors.

Relative Colorimetric - Compares the white of the source color space to that of the destination color space and shifts all color accordingly. Out-of-gamut colors are shifted to the closest reproducible color in the destination color space. Relative colorimetric preserves more of the original colors in an image than Perceptual.

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Feb 16, 2019 17:52:42   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
xptom wrote:
For the past 5 years I have been printing at home with a Canon Pro 100 printer using Canon's Print Studio Pro plugin for Photoshop with outstanding results. Last week there was a discussion about which paper is the best. Someone mentioned using Costco (Kirkland) paper. They make great hot dogs and pizza so I gave it a try. To my surprise the results were stunning, no difference between Canon and Costco papers --- except for cost: 20 sheet pack Canon 8 1/2 x 11 glossy from Amazon = $7.99 > $.40/sheet; 150 sheet pack Kirkland 8 1/2 x 11 glossy from Costco = $24.95 > $.17/sheet. Don't know about durability, but I'm sure they will outlast me. BTW, I did do a comparison of the two papers using the "Print" mode for Photoshop. The prints came out the same, but not as vibrant as with Print Studio Pro.

I have also wrestled with the problem as have many with getting prints just right. For what its worth my print settings for Print Studio Pro using Relative Colorimetric Intent: Brightness = +20, Contrast = +10, Cyan =+10, Magenta = -5, Yellow = -5. Note: Have not seen much difference between Relative Colormetric and Perspective Intents.

Intent Definitions - Per the Photoshop Print Dialog

Perceptual - Aims to preserve the visual relationship between color so it's perceived as natural to the human eye, even though the color values themselves may change. This intent is suitable for photographic images with out-of-gamut colors.

Relative Colorimetric - Compares the white of the source color space to that of the destination color space and shifts all color accordingly. Out-of-gamut colors are shifted to the closest reproducible color in the destination color space. Relative colorimetric preserves more of the original colors in an image than Perceptual.
For the past 5 years I have been printing at home ... (show quote)


Good to know. Another source to check is Red River Paper. You can find them online.

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Feb 16, 2019 18:15:42   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
The Kirkland brand of liquors is also very good for the money.

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Feb 16, 2019 18:26:02   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
The Kirkland brand of liquors is also very good for the money.
Their rotisserie check is good (and large) also.

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Feb 16, 2019 18:31:15   #
MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City
 
tainkc wrote:
Their rotisserie check is good (and large) also.


Did you mean to say rotisserie “chicken”? It is good!!

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Feb 16, 2019 18:36:03   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Well, well, well, Get a load of this; I use Epson printers every day. I have been using Kirkland paper in it for years with absolutely no problem. Just the other day, I pulled out a photo that I had printed 12 years ago and it still looked good. I just happen to still have that photo saved on my computer. So, just for fun, I printed it once more. I do not see any fade or any difference.

Here is the kicker: My wife goes to a lot of garage sales and bought some Canon paper. I have been using that paper for about a month now. And guess what? I don't see any difference. Imagine that! I did not change any ICC profiles nor did I do any color corrections. Hmmm...

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Feb 16, 2019 18:53:11   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
tainkc wrote:
Their rotisserie check is good (and large) also.


Rotisserie Chicken! Yes, good eatin'!

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Feb 16, 2019 19:44:03   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
The last time I bought any Costco/Kirkland photopaper that had a manufactorer's name on it the paper came from Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi also makes photo printers and from what I have found they are all disigned for volumne printing so they are for commercial use. That would lead to the conclusion that the paper is aimed at the same uses.

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Feb 16, 2019 20:09:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
I get Ink Press papers from B&H.
Including 8x12 luster.

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Feb 16, 2019 20:51:10   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
MadMikeOne wrote:
Did you mean to say rotisserie “chicken”? It is good!!
Ha! What happened to my brain check?

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Feb 16, 2019 20:52:49   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
robertjerl wrote:
The last time I bought any Costco/Kirkland photopaper that had a manufactorer's name on it the paper came from Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi also makes photo printers and from what I have found they are all disigned for volumne printing so they are for commercial use. That would lead to the conclusion that the paper is aimed at the same uses.
You know what I heard? That it was actually Epson paper, but without the watermark on back. You know what I also heard? I heard the same thing only it being Canon paper. Go figure.

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Feb 16, 2019 20:58:51   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
tainkc wrote:
Ha! What happened to my brain check?

CRC error?

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Feb 17, 2019 02:48:56   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
tainkc wrote:
You know what I heard? That it was actually Epson paper, but without the watermark on back. You know what I also heard? I heard the same thing only it being Canon paper. Go figure.


Well, the box of 13x19 actually said it was made by Mitsubishi on the label. And on one site I glanced at it said the photo papers sold at "big box stores" was made by Mitsubishi Paper Mills. I have found one listing of Mitsubishi Ultra Glossy in 8.5x11 from Sam's Club.

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Feb 17, 2019 07:39:47   #
Woodworm65 Loc: Lombard, IL
 

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Feb 17, 2019 08:19:19   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
I, too, have been using Costco paper. Very surprised at its quality, and I have some prints framed that are more than 5 years old. A great value from Costco.

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