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Feb 14, 2019 09:13:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I just watched a series on English TV about botched cosmetic surgeries. Some were done more or less out of necessity, but most were done to give the patient "more confidence." I would never have elective plastic surgery done on myself. Although the failure rate is only around 6%, the consequences of failure can be catastrophic. Many of the people shown had gone to foreign countries to save money, but they wound up paying much more to have the damage repaired.

Aging is part of the human process, and everyone knows that. Having your body cut up to make it look better usually just makes it look different, and sometimes, comical. Life is tough enough as it is without paying someone to cut you up unnecessarily.

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Feb 14, 2019 09:39:56   #
pendennis
 
There's a series on U.S. cable TV about the same thing. It's amazing what people will put themselves through just for ego.

The "stars" are two plastic surgeons, and they mostly correct boob jobs, etc. They do have a lot of repair cases where another surgeon screwed up things.

One of the recent shows had a woman from England, who'd already had over thirty procedures. She was so taken with supposed flaws, that she nearly begged the surgeons to operate. Fortunately, they declined, with the advice to her, to accept her beautiful looks as is, and to not have any further procedures, since the only thing that could happen was bad.

My son was born with a bilateral cleft palate and lip. He underwent 19 corrective surgeries, and the 19th was the last his maxillo-facial surgeon would do. Granted, these were over 18 years, and there were some multi-year gaps in the process. Your body just can't handle the constant trauma.

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Feb 14, 2019 13:05:04   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
In the UK only those who can show mental health issues arising from wound repair can get NHS plastic surgery. Or have a payout from insurance companies....other option is to go to another country.
Elective surgery is extremely difficult to get within NHS. Private surgery is very highly priced and there is little comeback if it goes wrong.
We do not quite have the same 'ambulance chasing' lawyers 'winning' payouts as portrayed in the US - but we are getting there.....

My attitude is that 'there is no need' as it seems 'ugly' people still seem to get married!

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Feb 14, 2019 13:33:14   #
Vietnam Vet
 
The VA did a brow lift for me because my eye lids were droopy and had lost of peripheral vision. No problems and my eyesight has improved.

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Feb 14, 2019 15:01:30   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
G Brown wrote:
In the UK only those who can show mental health issues arising from wound repair can get NHS plastic surgery. Or have a payout from insurance companies....other option is to go to another country.
Elective surgery is extremely difficult to get within NHS. Private surgery is very highly priced and there is little comeback if it goes wrong.
We do not quite have the same 'ambulance chasing' lawyers 'winning' payouts as portrayed in the US - but we are getting there.....

My attitude is that 'there is no need' as it seems 'ugly' people still seem to get married!
In the UK only those who can show mental health is... (show quote)


Yes, the show explained all that. A necessary procedure might cost £2,000, and that will be covered. Correcting botched elective surgery or surgery done on the cheap in a foreign country could cost five times that, and that's not covered.

One of the services not covered by the NHS is repairing people who have lost a lost of weight quickly, either through dieting or a bypass. They will have a tremendous amount of excess skin hanging off their bodies, but dealing with that is a lengthy process that is very expensive. At least the people on this show were able to get the necessary work don to get on with their lives.

We had a show here about people who had cosmetic work done more or less out of necessity, and it was paid for my the show. It provided a good solution for people who were somehow disfigured. Eventually, a woman wasn't pleased with the result, so she sued the show, and it went off the air.

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Feb 15, 2019 06:24:11   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I just watched a series on English TV about botched cosmetic surgeries. Some were done more or less out of necessity, but most were done to give the patient "more confidence." I would never have elective plastic surgery done on myself. Although the failure rate is only around 6%, the consequences of failure can be catastrophic. Many of the people shown had gone to foreign countries to save money, but they wound up paying much more to have the damage repaired.

Aging is part of the human process, and everyone knows that. Having your body cut up to make it look better usually just makes it look different, and sometimes, comical. Life is tough enough as it is without paying someone to cut you up unnecessarily.
I just watched a series on English TV about botche... (show quote)


Amen

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Feb 15, 2019 09:13:36   #
gmolony Loc: Louisiana
 
Just hard to beat the clock!

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Feb 15, 2019 09:37:16   #
pendennis
 
Vietnam Vet wrote:
The VA did a brow lift for me because my eye lids were droopy and had lost of peripheral vision. No problems and my eyesight has improved.


My sister had the same procedure; amazing improvement in peripheral vision. This wasn't considered "cosmetic" in the least, since the drooping lids affected her vision.

Glad yours went well.

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Feb 15, 2019 09:39:26   #
pendennis
 
G Brown wrote:
In the UK only those who can show mental health issues arising from wound repair can get NHS plastic surgery. Or have a payout from insurance companies....other option is to go to another country.
Elective surgery is extremely difficult to get within NHS. Private surgery is very highly priced and there is little comeback if it goes wrong.
We do not quite have the same 'ambulance chasing' lawyers 'winning' payouts as portrayed in the US - but we are getting there.....

My attitude is that 'there is no need' as it seems 'ugly' people still seem to get married!
In the UK only those who can show mental health is... (show quote)


Most of the elective cosmetic surgery here isn't covered by insurance. However, if a person has the money, feels the need, etc., I see no reason why they have to go to another country for such procedures.

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Feb 15, 2019 10:24:53   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I just watched a series on English TV about botched cosmetic surgeries.
Is this series on Netflix like a lot of other English programs or do you watch British TV OTA?

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Feb 15, 2019 13:58:49   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
The ones in the U.K. are often getting surgery in Eastern Europe (some are very good, but some less so) but they are safe in the knowledge that if it goes bad there is a good chance the NHS will put it right.
If our Government wants to save money it could do with making that clear to all elective surgery patients.

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Feb 15, 2019 14:13:10   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
Is this series on Netflix like a lot of other English programs or do you watch British TV OTA?
I doubt I will get an answer to this so I might as well unwatch this topic.

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Feb 15, 2019 14:58:02   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
ZaZA Gabor had so many face lifts that she finally had two brown moles (one on each cheek) and a goatee!

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Feb 16, 2019 00:03:08   #
PH CIB
 
To me it is just body and fender work like repairing or restoring an old car or truck,,,if people have the money and want to do it does not bother me,,,have seen money spent on a lot of things much worse...

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