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Feb 11, 2019 07:45:01   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
If someone gets too close and you say, "Stop, or I'll shoot" but the person doesn't stop and you k**l or injure him, and then you find out he was having a medical emergency (for example, prescription drug interaction, stroke), will you feel bad?

Are there statistics on how many two-legged thieves wander around the wilds hoping to stumble into someone with expensive camera gear?


I feel bad already (Another Maine-iac comment).

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Feb 11, 2019 07:47:39   #
BebuLamar
 
I might want to carry a weapon at times but not when I am doing photography. I don't do photography in places where I feel I need a gun.

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Feb 11, 2019 07:56:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
I have a cousin who used to live in Alaska. She carried a .45 just in case of bears.
(I would also.)

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Feb 11, 2019 07:57:29   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Tom G wrote:
Obviously, you missed the point.


No, I believe she came pretty darn close to the point. Maybe a little dramatic but still quite accurate.

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Feb 11, 2019 07:57:47   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
I understand about bears but I’m talking about the 2 legged thieves. I’m not in bear country that much.

I would not go to questionable places.

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Feb 11, 2019 08:03:06   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Longshadow wrote:
I have a cousin who used to live in Alaska. She carried a .45 just in case of bears.
(I would also.)


As would any smart person who lives amongst bears. But they don't carry a handgun to k**l bears, just to scare them off. If you don't get a very exact shot, with most handguns or even rifles, you would do little more to the bear than piss it off.

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Feb 11, 2019 08:06:34   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
As would any smart person who lives amongst bears. But they don't carry a handgun to k**l bears, just to scare them off. If you don't get a very exact shot, with most handguns or even rifles, you would do little more to the bear than piss it off.

Yes it will!

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Feb 11, 2019 09:51:26   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
I could see the protection against bears etc. I was in the Poconos this summer taking the trash
out to the street can when I came upon a pretty good size black bear who cleverly got through
the lockup we had for the container. That is when I thought back slowly up facing him to the house now.

I always thought that having a gun was more dangerous then not. I read a while ago that confronting
a burglar armed is probably more risky then unarmed. Thieves dont carry because the jail sentence
is way more time with a weapon. Could I wrestle a street criminal for my gun if he moved fast.

I see so much traffic anger in my new area of FL. Read the other day that the airports are finding
thousands of travelers with loaded guns many and a bullet in the chamber all over the country. They either forgot or are stupid. As said here when do you shoot? Person comes stumbling through the brush towards
you do you shoot him? Drunk or hurt is more then likely.

I am not against guns. I just feel that people carrying in the streets and colleges and in buildings
is just plain nuts. If guys entered a restuarant with holstered guns I would immediately leave
especially with our families children.

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Feb 11, 2019 09:56:59   #
hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you're so afraid of the world, you shouldn't go out in it, leaving it safer for the rest of us.



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Feb 11, 2019 09:58:00   #
hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Longshadow wrote:
I have a cousin who used to live in Alaska. She carried a .45 just in case of bears.
(I would also.)


I've been in Alaska for over 40 years and never carried a gun or bear spray. Never had a problem, just keep your head up.

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Feb 11, 2019 11:18:11   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
hpucker99 wrote:
I've been in Alaska for over 40 years and never carried a gun or bear spray. Never had a problem, just keep your head up.

She carried in remote areas... I think she never had a problem, but she felt more comfortable in doing so.

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Feb 11, 2019 11:33:05   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
I don’t want this post to turn into a political discussion on gun control but am wondering what other Hogg’s do to protect themselves and their expensive equipment when in remote areas? I carry a firearm. Thoughts All? If this has been discussed before sorry but I’m reviving the thread!


I have a concealed carry permit and take a weapon when I am in the "wilds" or driving back country roads and long distance trips within the state. In order to get a concealed carry permit, at least in CA, one has to take the appropriate courses as required by law and has to actually have lessons on how to handle and shoot the weapon. Only then will the application be reviewed. In most counties, permits are denied. In my county the sheriff's deputy went over everything again and then personally interviewed me before granting me the permit. As an older woman who travels alone a lot I can at least have some feeling of defense. In CA I need this permit to even carry a long bladed knife and it allows me, if I think it is needed, to carry a weapon that is not locked away and unloaded. People just get so immediately riled up when someone talks about a weapon, it's just a tool. Handled correctly, like all tools, it is effective when needed. Many people are k**led by knives, power tools, people's hands, cars, airplanes, and on and on. None of these things are bad in and of themselves; it all depends on how they are handled. Also, a concealed carry permit is never given to protect things, like camera gear, it's granted to protect one's self or someone else and the weapon is only to be used when there is a direct threat of bodily harm.

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Feb 11, 2019 11:40:14   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Crime rate stats for remote areas are very very low. They are not very much higher in the more visited parts of our national parks. You are more likely to shoot yourself accidentally while carrying a gun than to be attacked by a random criminal when in a remote area. Really, thieves do not say "Hey, I need to score some money for crack. I think I will drive 10 hours to the National Park then hike into the woods for a day and a half in hopes of finding someone with enough cash on them so I can score!" Save the weight, leave the gun.
Crime rate stats for remote areas are very very lo... (show quote)


Perhaps you are unaware of the one k*****g that I always keep in mind when I visit Yosemite, which is often. The man, who worked in the park, knocked on the door of a motel room outside the park and posed as a workman. Once inside he overpowered the mother of the two young girls, which is what the man was after. He k**led the mother, raped the young women, and left both bodies along the road in two different places. One was nearer to my house; I live an hour and a half away from Yosemite. Then there is the woman who parked her car in an overlook on Hwy 108, the main highway up to Sonora Pass, and was never heard from again. So, bad stuff happens everywhere. Women are generally more victimized than men and are not simply not as capable to defend themselves. Being older is about the same.

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Feb 11, 2019 12:18:45   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
via the lens wrote:
Perhaps you are unaware of the one k*****g that I always keep in mind when I visit Yosemite, which is often. The man, who worked in the park, knocked on the door of a motel room outside the park and posed as a workman. Once inside he overpowered the mother of the two young girls, which is what the man was after. He k**led the mother, raped the young women, and left both bodies along the road in two different places. One was nearer to my house; I live an hour and a half away from Yosemite. Then there is the woman who parked her car in an overlook on Hwy 108, the main highway up to Sonora Pass, and was never heard from again. So, bad stuff happens everywhere. Women are generally more victimized than men and are not simply not as capable to defend themselves. Being older is about the same.
Perhaps you are unaware of the one k*****g that I ... (show quote)


I heard about someone who was casually walking along a path and was struck by a falling boulder. Should I never walk anywhere ever again?

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Feb 11, 2019 12:32:01   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
dsmeltz wrote:
I heard about someone who was casually walking along a path and was struck by a falling boulder. Should I never walk anywhere ever again?


Wise choice on your part.

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