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Optical Viewfinder (OVF) vs Electronic View Finder (EVF). Which is better?
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Feb 10, 2019 23:00:26   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
User ID wrote:
You should read a lot more negative reviews cuz you are too happy.






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Feb 10, 2019 23:06:37   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
CO wrote:
I downloaded the user's manual for the Z6 but I didn't see any options for changing the refresh rate. That's not to say that it isn't there.


The only reference I see to refresh rate is that it may drop when using "Low Light AF"

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Feb 11, 2019 01:38:29   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Bipod wrote:
If you are bothered by batteries that last too long without a recharge,
EVF will solve that problem. OVF current drain is 0 mA.

Or if you've always been wishing for a time lag in your viewfinder.
OVF delay is 0 uS.

Finally, if your OVF was too sharp and contrasty, EVF will fix that too.
OVF matched the resolution and contrast of the human eye. EVF can't
even match the image sensor performance.

Remember, the screen on the OVF is maybe 1/30th to 1/50th the area of
the computer monitor you're reading this one. How well would you like
using just one tiny corner of your monitor?

But only one thing matters: EVF requies less labor to assemble, reducing
the camera manufacture's unit cost. Of course, they pocket this savings--
and will do anything to get you to switch.
If you are bothered by batteries that last too lon... (show quote)


You are correct the battery drain of OVF is zero. But who doesn't take out two fully charged batteries with them. I have come close one or two times of running out of charge while shooting as long as 12 hours (turned off when not shooting), but have yet to run out in 8 years of shooting with two fully charged batteries. And that is while using battery draining 60fps and 120fps refresh rates.

There is a 1/120 secord lag with my E-M1mrII EVF. The shutter lag is 0.05 seconds, the same as with the EOS-1DX. This means if I am shooting the same event as someone with an EOS-1DX, I will see the same moment 1/120 of a second later than the EOS-1DX and we will have captured the same shot, from two slightly different positions, with the same shutter lag of 0.05 second and 1/120 second apart.

I see very little differences with a OVF and EVF except for two areas. To me the image in the EVF matches the image I have in mind. And if it doesn't, I just change it so it does. What I see is what I get. That is not necessarily what happens with the light varying in an OVF. And as the light gets too dim in the OVF, I still have an image in the EVF.

Don't compare apples to oranges. The size of the EVF's pixels are not the same as the pixels on anyone's monitor. The image size in both the OVF and EVF arrive at the eye as the same size and, with the EVF being 2.4 million pixels, very little difference for the eye in resolution (the eye's ability to resolve detail does have a limit just as it does for prints). And they are already putting more pixels in some of the viewfinders althought I am not sure why looking through my E-M1mrII EVF. I guess because they can?

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Feb 11, 2019 06:27:54   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
mas24 wrote:
I don't own a mirrorless camera. My Nikon DSLR has an optical viewfinder. Mirrorless cameras have electronic viewfinders. I have read on this forum, that some don't like the EVF. Especially, if you're accustomed to the OVF. Is one really better than the other?


In MANUAL, I am all about the Electronic Viewfinder. For every thing else, my DSLR's work just fine thank you.

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Feb 11, 2019 06:30:31   #
miked46 Loc: Winter Springs, Florida
 
I have both and I am beginning to really like my EVF on the M50. I get to see exactly what my shot will look like.

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Feb 11, 2019 06:37:12   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I used an OVF camera back in 1999 through 2010 on two different cameras. I hated the lag. I adjusted to it, but it was miserable none the less. Even today with the latest, visual lag is still mentioned in critiques of the latest cameras.
--Bob
mas24 wrote:
I don't own a mirrorless camera. My Nikon DSLR has an optical viewfinder. Mirrorless cameras have electronic viewfinders. I have read on this forum, that some don't like the EVF. Especially, if you're accustomed to the OVF. Is one really better than the other?

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Feb 11, 2019 06:41:54   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
rmalarz wrote:
Even today with the latest, visual lag is still mentioned in critiques of the latest cameras.
--Bob


Bob, in the real world, there is no lag. Just go to your local Best Buy and test any of the Sony A7 cameras.

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Feb 11, 2019 07:31:20   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
mas24 wrote:
I don't own a mirrorless camera. My Nikon DSLR has an optical viewfinder. Mirrorless cameras have electronic viewfinders. I have read on this forum, that some don't like the EVF. Especially, if you're accustomed to the OVF. Is one really better than the other?


EVF is better

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Feb 11, 2019 07:35:21   #
Strofam
 
I started taking photographs in the 60’s using a Pentax SLR and progressed thru differing 35mm camera formats to the present. I now use a Fuji X-T2. My take is as follows:

OVF vs EVF
Let’s see...
Photo composer or composition - same
Photo exposure - OVF no, EVF yes
Depth of field - OVF yes, EVF yes
Color balance or saturation - OVF no, EVF yes
White balance - OVF no, EVF yes

All of the above data is available on an EVF before the photo is taken allowing the user to make adjustments before taking a photo. Is that important? It is to me, perhaps not to others....

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Feb 11, 2019 07:36:01   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
mas24 wrote:
I don't own a mirrorless camera. My Nikon DSLR has an optical viewfinder. Mirrorless cameras have electronic viewfinders. I have read on this forum, that some don't like the EVF. Especially, if you're accustomed to the OVF. Is one really better than the other?


The deciding factor for me is that with an EVF I don't have to keep slipping my reading glasses on and off to 'chimp' at the rear screen. I can change settings, get 'live view' and review the shot without taking my eye off the EVF.
Also, from handling cameras in the store, it seems to me that the optical viewfinders on the low to midline DSLR's are really small.

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Feb 11, 2019 08:12:43   #
AndyGarcia
 
mas24 wrote:
I don't own a mirrorless camera. My Nikon DSLR has an optical viewfinder. Mirrorless cameras have electronic viewfinders. I have read on this forum, that some don't like the EVF. Especially, if you're accustomed to the OVF. Is one really better than the other?


Go to a Camera shop and try some mirrorless cameras, Fuji XT3, Sony A7lll, Olympus, Panasonic and see if you like it - the EVF.

No point really in discussing strengths and weaknesses without you having experienced current Mirrorless cameras.

Good luck.

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Feb 11, 2019 08:24:04   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
I own a micro 4/3s Olympus with an evf. I get exposure info, grid, level indicators, etc. but the best part is that I also see what the image will look like as I change the variables. That’s worth a lot to me. Not something I had with my Nikon d7000.

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Feb 11, 2019 08:33:04   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Strofam wrote:
I started taking photographs in the 60’s using a Pentax SLR and progressed thru differing 35mm camera formats to the present. I now use a Fuji X-T2. My take is as follows:

OVF vs EVF
Let’s see...
Photo composer or composition - same
Photo exposure - OVF no, EVF yes
Depth of field - OVF yes, EVF yes
Color balance or saturation - OVF no, EVF yes
White balance - OVF no, EVF yes

All of the above data is available on an EVF before the photo is taken allowing the user to make adjustments before taking a photo. Is that important? It is to me, perhaps not to others....
I started taking photographs in the 60’s using a P... (show quote)



Color balance or saturation - OVF no, EVF yes
White balance - OVF no, EVF yes


Aren't these two moot points when shooting RAW?

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Feb 11, 2019 08:40:49   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Strofam wrote:
I started taking photographs in the 60’s using a Pentax SLR and progressed thru differing 35mm camera formats to the present. I now use a Fuji X-T2. My take is as follows:

OVF vs EVF
Let’s see...
Photo composer or composition - same
Photo exposure - OVF no, EVF yes
Depth of field - OVF yes, EVF yes
Color balance or saturation - OVF no, EVF yes
White balance - OVF no, EVF yes

All of the above data is available on an EVF before the photo is taken allowing the user to make adjustments before taking a photo. Is that important? It is to me, perhaps not to others....
I started taking photographs in the 60’s using a P... (show quote)


I agree with this post and will only add that it greatly enhances the use of vintage lenses (which can be a joy to use) for all the above reasons plus focus peaking.

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Feb 11, 2019 08:48:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I grew up with optical finders, so I like them. An EVF can show the changes that varying aperture and shutter speed make, so that's an advantage. There is usually a bit of a lag in the EVF, especially when moving the camera.

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