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Jan 31, 2019 13:22:48   #
Rich43224
 
Have had this show up on my Facebook page several times. Wondering if anyone knows anything about it.

Thanks.

https://witharsenal.com/

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Jan 31, 2019 13:31:35   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Rich43224 wrote:
Have had this show up on my Facebook page several times. Wondering if anyone knows anything about it.

Thanks.

https://witharsenal.com/


It's been talked about a lot here. You can do a "Search" to see what has already been said. Personally, I'd rather be in charge of my settings so that I can get the DOF and the exposure that I want. If I want an auto camera I'd use my cellphone.

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Jan 31, 2019 13:33:42   #
duane klipping Loc: Bristow iowa
 
There has been multiple posts here about them. I see ads for it everyday and it is as tiresome as the My Pillow ads on TV. They spend a lot on ads but many have not received the product yet.

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Jan 31, 2019 14:10:34   #
Bill P
 
Oh great, as if the world didn't have enough people that think it's the camera that takes the photo, not the photographer, now we get this crap.

In my career, I have had a lot of contact with engineers that thought they were photographers. Not a drop of creativity in a one of them. Just a methodical, over detailed set of rules that applied to any photo. Same process for landscapes and portraits. Just perfect.

I'm leaving town and hiding in a cave preparing for the flood of over wrought responses.

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Jan 31, 2019 14:30:28   #
KiheiVillages
 
Some "artists" are mechanical also.
Like musicians...some can be so damn technical, yet their output is sublime.
Thus even on the other side of the spectrum, there is great "Art".
But, like you, I think, not so much.
But, much of the "rules" of art, taught in schools are formulas.
Balance of composition, color, etc. along with tension, dissonance, and other things
to evoke emotion.
And yes, these things can be programed into an AI, and probably will produce fine art.
Most likely already is. LOL!

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Feb 1, 2019 05:44:26   #
chippy65 Loc: Cambridge
 
Well............I thought it was an English football team ?

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Feb 1, 2019 05:50:59   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
chippy65 wrote:
Well............I thought it was an English football team ?


Full of foreign players!!!

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Feb 1, 2019 06:31:55   #
chippy65 Loc: Cambridge
 
I thought they all were ?

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Feb 1, 2019 07:56:33   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Bill P wrote:
Oh great, as if the world didn't have enough people that think it's the camera that takes the photo, not the photographer, now we get this crap.

In my career, I have had a lot of contact with engineers that thought they were photographers. Not a drop of creativity in a one of them. Just a methodical, over detailed set of rules that applied to any photo. Same process for landscapes and portraits. Just perfect.

I'm leaving town and hiding in a cave preparing for the flood of over wrought responses.
Oh great, as if the world didn't have enough peopl... (show quote)


When you leave I hope you don't get a run in your nylons.

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Feb 1, 2019 08:02:27   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
A lot of people seem to like the remote control capabilities of Arsenal. However, there are less expensive options for that. The differentiator is the AI. In my opinion, the AI (as advertised) leads to shots that seek mediocrity. Any time a system uses large numbers of "good" or even "great" samples to suggest or control results, the best you can hope for is an average result.

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Feb 1, 2019 09:38:09   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Everything has a right time and place. Arsenal has manual override. Selecting all the settings and pressing the shutter button on my tablet where I can see them better is no different than doing the same thing on my camera except my 82 year old shakey hands aren't ruining the shot by causing motion blur.

Also, with time becoming scarce, letting Arsenal do part of the post processing like stacking and processing timelapse sequences seems reasonable to me. Past worrying about my masculinity, I don't get too concerned about receiving a little help now and then. For those of you who do not share my view, knock yourself out.

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Feb 1, 2019 09:48:10   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
The end of their spiel asks for donations to support development. I don't think so!
Rich43224 wrote:
Have had this show up on my Facebook page several times. Wondering if anyone knows anything about it.

Thanks.

https://witharsenal.com/

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Feb 1, 2019 10:13:45   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
DebAnn wrote:
The end of their spiel asks for donations to support development. I don't think so!


That comment may be an overlooked hangover from before it became the most successful kickstarter ever. They surely don't need that now. I like their business model - collect prepayments and only order a production run when they have the orders and money in hand - no warehousing, no wholesale compromises, no restocking, no speculative overrun. Looks like a winner to me.

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Feb 1, 2019 10:43:56   #
philphotog Loc: Perth, Scotland
 
Haven't experienced this so far but Arsenal is an English football team but can't really see them flooding the world with messages. What is the content of the FB messages anyway?

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Feb 1, 2019 13:30:53   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Yes! Good product if you want to turn control of your hardware over to their computer...


Rich43224 wrote:
Have had this show up on my Facebook page several times. Wondering if anyone knows anything about it.

Thanks.

https://witharsenal.com/

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