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Jan 31, 2019 11:09:38   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
SteveR wrote:
My Grandparents are an example. They emigrated from Italy in 1910 and 1911. My Grandfather first worked on the railroads, then in the coal mines before moving to Dearborn around 1941 to work for Ford. They were proud to be Americans and always spoke English in the home....but it was not perfect English. My Grandmother even read Greek mythology. One of my cherished possessions is an envelope from Christmas which contained a couple of dollars. My name was written in cursive as Stifi. It's wonderful because it is "her." "Steve" wouldn't quite be the same.

My Grandfather didn't get upset often. Usually when losing at either solitaire or pinochle at which time he could let out with what we all knew was an expletive laden burst of Italian as he threw the cards down on the table.

They were wonderful people who raised a wonderful family.
My Grandparents are an example. They emigrated fr... (show quote)


I hear ya. My parents were both immigrants. My Italian grandparents came here with 5 children. They had to be sponsored then. My father's grandparents came with him and 3 other children had three more in the country. No get this how did they meet get married stay married for almost 60 years. Have 5 children. My father was a Mick from the other side!!!
We spoke Italian in the house never in the presence of anyone who did not. That would have been rude. My wife and I have Irish Passports because of paternal parents. My children spoke Italian when younger. Not so much anymore. My grandchildren not. Different times. We grew up in a tenement in The South Bronx. Our parents pushed education down our thoughts. The biggest help was the Catholic Church. We all went to Catholic school. The Brothers and the Nuns knew the score they made sure we were at grade level and above.

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Jan 31, 2019 11:13:20   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
markngolf wrote:
If someone here feels compelled to criticize something that is not photography related, a private message might be more appropriate.
Perfect response and suggestion, Bill!! I try to follow that practice.
Thanks!
Mark


This is so chump a$$ why would you feel it is your life calling to criticize someone a spelling or mistake in sentence structure. Get a life.

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Jan 31, 2019 11:28:13   #
LU10IT Loc: Daytona Beach, Florida
 
Thank you to the ones that defended my grammar in my last post. As you can see by my name "LU10IT" I am a lieutenant with a fire department my primary job is saving lives and property. I have enjoyed my second talent as a wedding photographer for over 10 years. I was bored one morning and remembered this chat site and threw that question out there to see what other professional photographers thought. I've not been on here in some time, and if abc1234 ( how long did it take you to think of that catchy name) is the kind of people that are on this site it may be a while before I come back!!!

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Jan 31, 2019 12:10:20   #
kddp13 Loc: Wisconsin
 
LU10IT wrote:
Thank you to the ones that defended my grammar in my last post. As you can see by my name "LU10IT" I am a lieutenant with a fire department my primary job is saving lives and property. I have enjoyed my second talent as a wedding photographer for over 10 years. I was bored one morning and remembered this chat site and threw that question out there to see what other professional photographers thought. I've not been on here in some time, and if abc1234 ( how long did it take you to think of that catchy name) is the kind of people that are on this site it may be a while before I come back!!!
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Just block the wingnut and stay on the site. You had a valid question.

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Jan 31, 2019 13:01:03   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
kddp13 wrote:
Just block the wingnut and stay on the site. You had a valid question.


Indeed, the question was valid but the grammar was not. What kind of person prides themselves or defends such a mangling of the English language? I can understand a foreigner or someone with learning problems but the OP showed himself to be neither. You might think it cute but many of us do not.

Wingnut.

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Jan 31, 2019 13:03:20   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
LU10IT wrote:
Thank you to the ones that defended my grammar in my last post. As you can see by my name "LU10IT" I am a lieutenant with a fire department my primary job is saving lives and property. I have enjoyed my second talent as a wedding photographer for over 10 years. I was bored one morning and remembered this chat site and threw that question out there to see what other professional photographers thought. I've not been on here in some time, and if abc1234 ( how long did it take you to think of that catchy name) is the kind of people that are on this site it may be a while before I come back!!!
Thank you to the ones that defended my grammar in ... (show quote)


We do not intend to keep you from posting. Nothing was wrong about your question, just the manner in which you wrote. If you want to avoid this kind of discussion, then express yourself correctly.

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Jan 31, 2019 13:08:25   #
SteveR Loc: Dallas
 
abc1234 wrote:
Indeed, the question was valid but the grammar was not. What kind of person prides themselves or defends such a mangling of the English language? I can understand a foreigner or someone with learning problems but the OP showed himself to be neither. You might think it cute but many of us do not.

Wingnut.


Heavens termergatroid, the grammar police are back.

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Jan 31, 2019 13:16:39   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
abc1234 wrote:
We do not intend to keep you from posting. Nothing was wrong about your question, just the manner in which you wrote. If you want to avoid this kind of discussion, then express yourself correctly.

Of course, the other alternative is to not respond at all if you're unhappy with the way the OP expressed himself. After all, no one forced you to read or respond to his post. If you are annoyed with his grammatical sloppiness you can show you disapproval by ignoring him and not giving him the benefit of your experience.

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Jan 31, 2019 13:53:53   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
abc1234 wrote:
Indeed, the question was valid but the grammar was not. What kind of person prides themselves or defends such a mangling of the English language? I can understand a foreigner or someone with learning problems but the OP showed himself to be neither. You might think it cute but many of us do not.

Wingnut.


Ahh, Poor baby. Life must be so difficult for you. Get a life.

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Jan 31, 2019 13:57:06   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
abc1234 wrote:
We do not intend to keep you from posting. Nothing was wrong about your question, just the manner in which you wrote. If you want to avoid this kind of discussion, then express yourself correctly.


How about you moving on and finding a life. You do not have to respond. There is one thing to remember. This is mind over matter. He doesn't mind and you don't matter.

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Jan 31, 2019 14:37:25   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
I think you intended your response to someone else?
Mark
traderjohn wrote:
This is so chump a$$ why would you feel it is your life calling to criticize someone a spelling or mistake in sentence structure. Get a life.

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Jan 31, 2019 17:02:08   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
LU10IT wrote:
I'm a wedding photography in Daytona Beach Florida, My wife and I have been in business for over 10 years, how long is the general rule, legal or moral, should we hold onto the files.


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When I shot weddings I usually kept them for 2 or 3 years until I was sure there probably wasn't going to be any further reorders. When I decided to get rid of them, I contacted the clients and offered to sell them to them at a low price. It worked out well, and they were almost always sold.

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Jan 31, 2019 17:08:30   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Connecticut
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
You should save all your original files as long as you hold copyright to the images.


Maybe I should rephrase that.

...as long as you plan to exercise your copyright to the images.

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Feb 1, 2019 03:49:55   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
LU10IT wrote:
I'm a wedding photography in Daytona Beach Florida, My wife and I have been in business for over 10 years, how long is the general rule, legal or moral, should we hold onto the files.


I think there is definitely a moral question. I would hold them as long as humanly possible.

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Feb 1, 2019 22:28:41   #
WF2B Loc: Upstate NY and New England
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Agree. There are a number of reasons why some posts use poorly constructed language. Often it is because English is a second language for the writer. Sometimes it's because the writer wants to quickly express his ideas and doesn't want to spend the time editing or correcting typos, and sometimes people just have poor grammar and writing skills. None of that is important to me unless the meaning of a post is jumbled or incomprehensible. In that case I try to parrot back the message I think the poster is trying to express. There is never a need to be nasty or critical of others because of their writing ability.

Sometimes if a poster consistently misspells a key technical term like "apature" instead of "aperture", I may correct them gently in the same way I would correct any misstatement of facts. But generally I ignore grammar and spelling issues if the meaning of a post is clear. I don't see it as my job to teach others how to "rite and spel"
Agree. There are a number of reasons why some post... (show quote)

Amen to that. If I tried to comment on all of the spelling and grammatical errors I see on this site, I would not have time to look at all of the photos. As an amateur radio operator and an amateur photographer, my pet peeve is the misspelling of amateur, but I would never tell an OP that he didn’t know how to spell.
Bud

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