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Jan 28, 2019 14:02:56   #
MegTee Loc: Mesa Arizona
 
i agree with your points. next time i'll try the portrait style option, didnt think of it as at then. also, can i still crop the distracting elements out to bring the trees in further or would that be 'over processing'?


AndyH wrote:
I'd suggest a couple of things in addition to the timing issue on the daylight.

First, if the focus is the line of trees, I wonder whether it would work better to have taken the shot in portrait mode and cropped in further toward the curving line of trees? Most of the stuff on the left of the frame is distracting, at least everything beyond the street lamps, if the regularity and shape of the line of trees is your main focus. Shifting your position might give a different perspective. You might also consider moving in closer (past the storm sewer grate) and using a wider angle lens.

Second, the figure of the person running or walking out of the trees can add to the scene or detract from it. Obviously if you want to focus on the landscape aspects, the figure doesn't add as much, but I like the effect of the figure half behind and half in front of the line of trees.

Focusing on what interested you about the scene is generally the best path to improving your skills.

These are just my opinions, others may differ....

Andy
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Jan 28, 2019 14:03:57   #
MegTee Loc: Mesa Arizona
 
the ones to the left

PixelStan77 wrote:
In this image I see two different vertical images. Do You?Which one you like better?

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Jan 28, 2019 14:04:52   #
MegTee Loc: Mesa Arizona
 
cool. i haven't even gotten round to learning about those yet, will remember that in future. thanks

David C. wrote:
If this was your intended angle of view I would have used a polarization filter. This would have defused
the glare from the sun and sharpened the line of trees. Just my suggestion David C.

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Jan 28, 2019 14:06:36   #
MegTee Loc: Mesa Arizona
 
thank you! that sounds like a good idea to try. thank you for the PM update on the pic

photogeneralist wrote:
Simply flipping the photo (left to right) and adjusting in post for a little less overall exposure might work. Flipping puts the beginning of the leading line of trees near the bottom left corner. Most people's eyes enter a picture from that corner. Then straighten the photo so the lamppost on the new left is vertical. As posted, the eye enters from the bottom left then encounters the row of trees and stops at that barrier.
Note: flipping if it works at all, will not work in a photo where written words are visible
I'll PM your photo with these changes to illustrate the effect of the changes.
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Jan 29, 2019 07:33:34   #
Stephan G
 
MegTee wrote:
i agree with your points. next time i'll try the portrait style option, didnt think of it as at then. also, can i still crop the distracting elements out to bring the trees in further or would that be 'over processing'?


"Over processing" is a very abused term by many. With the equipment we have at hand we can capture and manipulate to our heart's content. What you are after are images that speak to you of your vision. And they can say many things.

One thing you might try. It is "old school", but it could be a helpful tool. You have the basic tool in hand. It is a framing tool made by using your thumbs and fore fingers. You can create a frame through which you can view what you are about to photograph. Using one eye it allows you to compose and preview your image. (See https://nofilmschool.com/2018/07/learn-how-frame-your-shots-finger-frames )

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Jan 29, 2019 08:49:56   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
Wait for the best time of the day or the year to get the shot you need . Many of us shoot the same objects at different times during the same day for maximum effect. And consider HDR or Stacking & Layering multiples as an venue to enhancement of an image.

Google these topics or research them here on the Hog's Search Database and look for more ideas to use to build your arsenal for free.

Good luck

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Jan 29, 2019 09:24:58   #
A10 Loc: Southern Indiana
 
You might try a longer focal length lens. This will compress your scene and maybe more pleasing to your eye.

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Jan 29, 2019 10:48:55   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Good stuff Andy (and greeting and salutations),

Thinking only of the trees as target. Yes, tough time of day for that shot, easy to blow out the scene. A Circular polarizer weighted for the sky portion is another thought.

In the first one; shooting from other end, or moving to the right of the tree line, and tightening (vertical shot), stop down a bit for starters.

In the second; I think cropping out the right third of the frame would also take some of the distractions out of the shot (it does not need all the cars/buildings), or tightening up/shooting it vertically, stop down a bit/meter to preserve the tree shadows and details.

Do them as B&W.

AndyH wrote:
I'd suggest a couple of things in addition to the timing issue on the daylight.

First, if the focus is the line of trees, I wonder whether it would work better to have taken the shot in portrait mode and cropped in further toward the curving line of trees? Most of the stuff on the left of the frame is distracting, at least everything beyond the street lamps, if the regularity and shape of the line of trees is your main focus. Shifting your position might give a different perspective. You might also consider moving in closer (past the storm sewer grate) and using a wider angle lens.

Second, the figure of the person running or walking out of the trees can add to the scene or detract from it. Obviously if you want to focus on the landscape aspects, the figure doesn't add as much, but I like the effect of the figure half behind and half in front of the line of trees.

Focusing on what interested you about the scene is generally the best path to improving your skills.

These are just my opinions, others may differ....

Andy
I'd suggest a couple of things in addition to the ... (show quote)

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Jan 29, 2019 10:59:44   #
wham121736 Loc: Long Island, New York
 
MegTee, As you can see your first post has created a huge number of responses. So much to consider : patience, vertical versus horizontal, choice of main subject, manual versus automatic, polarizer, red filter, black and white versus color! Mind boggling if you attempt to learn it all at once. This is actually a much better than average “first image” so don’t be discouraged. I suggest you google and read a book on beginning photography, learn how to use all the features of your camera, read about composition and shoot, shoot, shoot. Then, review your work, decide what you like, what works to tell your story. Continue to post here, where you will get many suggestions as to where to find the information you will need.

MegTee wrote:
Hi everyone, this is my first picture post here as an amateur photographer. I would love a critical opinion of this shot and what i can do to make it better either onsite or with photoshop. I wanted to get a dramatic view of all the trees lined up but the sun wasn't cooperating with me. how can i get a better shot next time? thank you

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Jan 29, 2019 15:35:08   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
Walk directly across the street and shoot the trees from there. You need to change your position so that you're not shooting directly into the sun. This would also get the distracting line of parked cars out of your image.

Try shooting at different exposures to see what you like.

The best way to learn is to shoot, shoot, and shoot: ideally with someone who has more experience, so you can compare notes.

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Jan 29, 2019 16:13:12   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
MegTee wrote:
Hi everyone, this is my first picture post here as an amateur photographer. I would love a critical opinion of this shot and what i can do to make it better either onsite or with photoshop. I wanted to get a dramatic view of all the trees lined up but the sun wasn't cooperating with me. how can i get a better shot next time? thank you

Go for a high dynamic range (HDR) shot is this case. Shoot one image exposed for the sky and one exposed for the grass. Combine them in postprocessing for a final image.

bwa

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Jan 29, 2019 19:41:15   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
MegTee wrote:
i agree with your points. next time i'll try the portrait style option, didnt think of it as at then. also, can i still crop the distracting elements out to bring the trees in further or would that be 'over processing'?


I either was told or read, to take a shot both hozionally and vertically. You never know which one may be the keeper

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Jan 29, 2019 19:58:17   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
MegTee wrote:
i agree with your points. next time i'll try the portrait style option, didnt think of it as at then. also, can i still crop the distracting elements out to bring the trees in further or would that be 'over processing'?


In my personal opinion, there is never over processing from just cropping, unless you squeeze the frame so much you have to overcompensate for image noise.

Andy

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Jan 29, 2019 19:59:22   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
olemikey wrote:
Good stuff Andy (and greeting and salutations),

Thinking only of the trees as target. Yes, tough time of day for that shot, easy to blow out the scene. A Circular polarizer weighted for the sky portion is another thought.

In the first one; shooting from other end, or moving to the right of the tree line, and tightening (vertical shot), stop down a bit for starters.

In the second; I think cropping out the right third of the frame would also take some of the distractions out of the shot (it does not need all the cars/buildings), or tightening up/shooting it vertically, stop down a bit/meter to preserve the tree shadows and details.

Do them as B&W.
Good stuff Andy (and greeting and salutations), b... (show quote)


Thanks, Mike. Those are also good suggestions.

Andy

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Jan 29, 2019 22:13:36   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
wham121736 wrote:
MegTee, As you can see your first post has created a huge number of responses. So much to consider : patience, vertical versus horizontal, choice of main subject, manual versus automatic, polarizer, red filter, black and white versus color! Mind boggling if you attempt to learn it all at once. This is actually a much better than average “first image” so don’t be discouraged. I suggest you google and read a book on beginning photography, learn how to use all the features of your camera, read about composition and shoot, shoot, shoot. Then, review your work, decide what you like, what works to tell your story. Continue to post here, where you will get many suggestions as to where to find the information you will need.
MegTee, As you can see your first post has created... (show quote)


I saw the East Setauket;

Wife and I used to launch our little speedboat from Port Jeff Harbor, we lived in Medford. Many fond memories of shooting 35mm all over the east end, camping at Cedar Point (when it was a county park), riding around out to the tips, farmers markets, fish markets , and on and on. Loved it there. she was a native, I was from Cali via Florida. Cheers!

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