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Trump's 'border security': Cut off cash to people and agencies that protect us
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Jan 16, 2019 13:44:30   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
"Some of the most critical federal employees are also the lowest paid. About half of TSA screeners, for example, make less than $40,000 a year.

It is already tremendously difficult to keep TSA screeners on the job, and the federal government employs more than 40,000 of them. At some airports, the annual turnover rate for screeners is 80 percent, and this shutdown is only going to make things worse.

How many paychecks do you think TSA screeners can miss before they are forced to find another job — any job — to pay the bills? When they do leave, commercial aviation will start to grind to a halt. Worse, there will be no money to hire or train their replacements.

So even after Trump decides to fund the TSA again, it will be weeks — perhaps months — before the security lines are fully staffed again and airlines can resume their normal schedules.

This isn’t governing. It’s rampant silliness. There is not a single person who actually thinks that forcing Border Patrol agents work without pay, or driving them to find new jobs, will somehow increase border security. So why has Trump painted himself into this corner?

I’m afraid that the answer is Trump actually does not care about border security at all. It has been obvious for quite some time that the main thing Donald Trump likes about being president is holding rallies. What he cares about is his “base” — specifically, the people who are willing to show up and cheer for him."

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Jan 16, 2019 14:03:27   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
Oh, the Democrats weren't involved? Just Trump...I did not know that.

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Jan 16, 2019 14:13:06   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Now if the Democrats were willing to negotiate instead of just obstruct, we could end this...

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Jan 16, 2019 14:15:42   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Now if the Democrats were willing to negotiate instead of just obstruct, we could end this...


Negotiate with Trump's moving targets? He changes his mind more often than a newborn baby's diapers needs to be changed. He brought this on himself.

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Jan 16, 2019 14:22:51   #
JoAnneK01 Loc: Lahaina, Hawaii
 
Let's see now a few years ago all of the dem leaders were all saying that we need a wall or some form of a barrier on our southern border. Now if we can get all these cry babies to sit down and do their jobs instead of playing politics then we, the American citizens, would all be a whole lot safer.

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Jan 16, 2019 14:24:48   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"Some of the most critical federal employees are also the lowest paid. About half of TSA screeners, for example, make less than $40,000 a year.

It is already tremendously difficult to keep TSA screeners on the job, and the federal government employs more than 40,000 of them. At some airports, the annual turnover rate for screeners is 80 percent, and this shutdown is only going to make things worse.

How many paychecks do you think TSA screeners can miss before they are forced to find another job — any job — to pay the bills? When they do leave, commercial aviation will start to grind to a halt. Worse, there will be no money to hire or train their replacements.

So even after Trump decides to fund the TSA again, it will be weeks — perhaps months — before the security lines are fully staffed again and airlines can resume their normal schedules.

This isn’t governing. It’s rampant silliness. There is not a single person who actually thinks that forcing Border Patrol agents work without pay, or driving them to find new jobs, will somehow increase border security. So why has Trump painted himself into this corner?

I’m afraid that the answer is Trump actually does not care about border security at all. It has been obvious for quite some time that the main thing Donald Trump likes about being president is holding rallies. What he cares about is his “base” — specifically, the people who are willing to show up and cheer for him."
"Some of the most critical federal employees ... (show quote)


Simplified for you.
He didn’t make shutdown rules/laws.
He just abides by the laws, something democrats should do. Novel idea, huh.

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Jan 16, 2019 14:40:03   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
"Our president loves his “Build the wall!” chants. Nothing would cause him greater pain that standing on a stage in front of 10,000 of his erstwhile supporters and being booed instead of cheered.

Before the shutdown, Trump had made clear that he was willing to sign a bill to keep the government open, even if it did not include funding for his wall.

Because of Trump’s support, the Senate unanimously passed such a funding bill.

But then his “base,” in the form of various pundits and talk-show hosts, began demanding that Trump shut down the government instead of signing a bill that did not include the wall money.

Rather than face their scorn, Trump reversed his position."

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Jan 16, 2019 15:10:52   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"Our president loves his “Build the wall!” chants. Nothing would cause him greater pain that standing on a stage in front of 10,000 of his erstwhile supporters and being booed instead of cheered.

Before the shutdown, Trump had made clear that he was willing to sign a bill to keep the government open, even if it did not include funding for his wall.

Because of Trump’s support, the Senate unanimously passed such a funding bill.

But then his “base,” in the form of various pundits and talk-show hosts, began demanding that Trump shut down the government instead of signing a bill that did not include the wall money.

Rather than face their scorn, Trump reversed his position."
"Our president loves his “Build the wall!” ch... (show quote)


President sounds very weak minded and can be swayed by the slightest breeze, someone else is running the country because it sure as hell ain't cadet bone head spurs.

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Jan 16, 2019 15:34:15   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Kraken wrote:
President sounds very weak minded and can be swayed by the slightest breeze, someone else is running the country because it sure as hell ain't cadet bone head spurs.


But who is the PuppetMaster?
Putin. Pence, ot the Peepee girls?

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Jan 16, 2019 15:43:22   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Frank T wrote:
But who is the PuppetMaster?
Putin. Pence, ot the Peepee girls?


If you did a casual look you could probably fill three pages of names that could and does sway the i***t.

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Jan 16, 2019 15:54:44   #
Vietnam Vet
 
I worked at a factory that laid us off so I can understand what that means. The nice thing about America is that we drew unemployment for a while and could find other jobs or wait and return to work after the lay off period was over.
I bet there are enough people willing to quit their minimum wage jobs and jump at that salary that any job vacancies would be filled from a waiting list practically over night

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Jan 17, 2019 09:21:54   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
As a young man, I recall GM on strike. Suppliers were as a consequence shut down. I worked in a store, business shrank and my hours were reduced. Friends that I went to High School depended on GM paycheck... They ost the homes and cars. That was in Flint Michigan, I am sure it was beyond Flint and Michigan.

5 billion is simply the start... It would take many billions and take years to complete, if ever ... certainly not an emergency and not the best way but then what do the experts know compared to President I-Me-Me-AllMine.

By the way... did the Navy was instructed to use steam catapults rather than Electro Rail launch catapults. Trump is an expert on all subjects. Oh! the Chinese have Rail Guns vs Gun Powder. Perhaps he should instruct them also.

Never did I expect Russia to conquer the USA for a few dollars by the internet. Never did I expect the Republican party to wave a white f**g and join Russia singing the International.

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Jan 17, 2019 10:15:21   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Vietnam Vet wrote:
I worked at a factory that laid us off so I can understand what that means. The nice thing about America is that we drew unemployment for a while and could find other jobs or wait and return to work after the lay off period was over.
I bet there are enough people willing to quit their minimum wage jobs and jump at that salary that any job vacancies would be filled from a waiting list practically over night


I don't think you fully understand the ripple effect of not paying 800,000 people. Additionally, I don't think you understand the human factor.
If all your money was gone and you had no income, exactly, how would you survive?

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Jan 17, 2019 13:08:17   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"Some of the most critical federal employees are also the lowest paid. About half of TSA screeners, for example, make less than $40,000 a year.

It is already tremendously difficult to keep TSA screeners on the job, and the federal government employs more than 40,000 of them. At some airports, the annual turnover rate for screeners is 80 percent, and this shutdown is only going to make things worse.

How many paychecks do you think TSA screeners can miss before they are forced to find another job — any job — to pay the bills? When they do leave, commercial aviation will start to grind to a halt. Worse, there will be no money to hire or train their replacements.

So even after Trump decides to fund the TSA again, it will be weeks — perhaps months — before the security lines are fully staffed again and airlines can resume their normal schedules.

This isn’t governing. It’s rampant silliness. There is not a single person who actually thinks that forcing Border Patrol agents work without pay, or driving them to find new jobs, will somehow increase border security. So why has Trump painted himself into this corner?

I’m afraid that the answer is Trump actually does not care about border security at all. It has been obvious for quite some time that the main thing Donald Trump likes about being president is holding rallies. What he cares about is his “base” — specifically, the people who are willing to show up and cheer for him."
"Some of the most critical federal employees ... (show quote)


Spoken like a true lib f*****t socialist dem. Apparently in your mind, dems should not negotiate, it is better to be a Pelosi and say NO, there is no discussion. This is on the dems.

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Jan 17, 2019 13:10:13   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Kraken wrote:
President sounds very weak minded and can be swayed by the slightest breeze, someone else is running the country because it sure as hell ain't cadet bone head spurs.



Krackhead, you seem to enjoy insulting the US and its citizens daily. That shows who and what you are.

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