Filter holders and plastic lens filter threads
Jan 16, 2019 11:06:55 #
New to the forum so go easy please :-)
I have a Nikon D750 and my main lens is the 07 version of the Nikkor 24-70 f2.8. I recently bought it used and it looks like nothing ever touched the plastic lens filter threads. The plan is to buy a system such as Nisi or Breakthrough and I note their holder adapter rings screw into the lens threads.
Other than being extremely careful screwing the rings in, does the weight of the holder say with a cpl and maybe a couple of the square filters have a big effect upon the lens and its threads?
I seem to remember reading about another system which threads to the exterior lens hood mount, anyone here experienced with that type of filter holder system?
Thanks for any info.
My main usage for the system will be for oceanscapes.
I have a Nikon D750 and my main lens is the 07 version of the Nikkor 24-70 f2.8. I recently bought it used and it looks like nothing ever touched the plastic lens filter threads. The plan is to buy a system such as Nisi or Breakthrough and I note their holder adapter rings screw into the lens threads.
Other than being extremely careful screwing the rings in, does the weight of the holder say with a cpl and maybe a couple of the square filters have a big effect upon the lens and its threads?
I seem to remember reading about another system which threads to the exterior lens hood mount, anyone here experienced with that type of filter holder system?
Thanks for any info.
My main usage for the system will be for oceanscapes.
Jan 16, 2019 11:25:08 #
I've never heard of such a thing. Are you sure that that lens has plastic where the filter screws in? I've never seen one that is plastic. That said, yes, I'd have concerns too if mine were plastic. I may think another lens is in order. I use Lee square filters and their CPL filter is round with a special adapter which does add some bulk and weight to the whole system. I don't know that I'd trust cheap plastic threads with my Lee CPL filter that cost more than $200.
Jan 16, 2019 11:50:36 #
My lens from Ken Rockwell site:
"Filter Size
77mm.
Plastic threads.
No rotation during focus or zoom, although the filter threads extend at the ends of the zoom range."
https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/24-70mm.htm
The newest Nikkor 24- 70 f2.8 VR:
"Filter Thread top
82 mm.
Thin plastic."
https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/24-70mm-vr.htm#spex
It is my understanding that the newest Tamron 24-70 f2.8 haqs plastic threads, the Toking 24-70 f2.8 still has metal threads.
I am definitely concerned about the weight of a filter holder and 2 or 3 filters added to my lens. Thanks for your reply!
"Filter Size
77mm.
Plastic threads.
No rotation during focus or zoom, although the filter threads extend at the ends of the zoom range."
https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/24-70mm.htm
The newest Nikkor 24- 70 f2.8 VR:
"Filter Thread top
82 mm.
Thin plastic."
https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/24-70mm-vr.htm#spex
It is my understanding that the newest Tamron 24-70 f2.8 haqs plastic threads, the Toking 24-70 f2.8 still has metal threads.
I am definitely concerned about the weight of a filter holder and 2 or 3 filters added to my lens. Thanks for your reply!
Jan 16, 2019 12:42:18 #
RWR
Loc: La Mesa, CA
Morongobill wrote:
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I wouldn’t be concerned. Just exercise the same common sense deliberate care as when handling any camera equipment.
Jan 16, 2019 12:43:41 #
Morongobill wrote:
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There should be no plastic filter threads on that lens, if there are, you do not have that lens, but a very cheap (toy) replica!
Jan 16, 2019 23:59:58 #
speters wrote:
There should be no plastic filter threads on that lens, if there are, you do not have that lens, but a very cheap (toy) replica!
This isn't old time Nikon anymore. They have been using a lot of plastic in their lenses since at 2007. I never dreamed a pro lens would have plastic filter threads. I was wrong.
Jan 17, 2019 00:02:20 #
In hindsight, the Tokina 24-70 f2.8 with metal threads might have been the better choice.
Jan 17, 2019 06:49:25 #
I have used a variety of Nikon/Nikkor products since the early '70's. I currently shoot with a D500 and a D810, with a variety of Nikkor lenses: 16-80 f/2.8-4; 24-70 f/2.8; 70-200 f/2.8; 200-500 f/5.6; and the 105mm Micro. (Also have the Sigma 85 Art, f/1.4)
Although I am careful....I have never had any issue with filters/threads or anything else with a Nikkor lens.
I have never heard of any issues with 'plastic threads' with Nikkor lenses. I would think, that Nikon has designed it's product carefully.
Just my $.02
Although I am careful....I have never had any issue with filters/threads or anything else with a Nikkor lens.
I have never heard of any issues with 'plastic threads' with Nikkor lenses. I would think, that Nikon has designed it's product carefully.
Just my $.02
Jan 17, 2019 10:16:37 #
Thanks for the information. Plus this is from Ken Rockwell in a review for one of your lenses, 70-200 f2.8:
"I dislike the plastic filter threads, which make cross-threading a constant worry. The advantage of plastic threads is that filters don't get stuck, and that the threads usually bend back into place after taking a hit."
https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/80200.htm
The threads look perfect, I'll just have to be more careful.
Definitely could have used a grad yesterday at Cholla Garden in Joshua Tree NP.
"I dislike the plastic filter threads, which make cross-threading a constant worry. The advantage of plastic threads is that filters don't get stuck, and that the threads usually bend back into place after taking a hit."
https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/80200.htm
The threads look perfect, I'll just have to be more careful.
Definitely could have used a grad yesterday at Cholla Garden in Joshua Tree NP.
Jan 17, 2019 11:02:02 #
The guy who somehow shows up at the top of the Google list when you search anything Nikon.
Jan 17, 2019 11:05:37 #
Alright, thanks for all the replies. Love my 24-70 f2.8, plastic threads or not, guess my finalists for the filter setup are the Breakthrough, Nisi and the Wine Country Camera offerings.
Jan 17, 2019 12:28:46 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
Given the very vocal discussion against using filters at all, or at least only in very limited circumstances with digital cameras, it would not be surprising at all for manufacturers to redirect their money and attention away from the mounting systems for for something that is seldom, if ever used.
Jan 17, 2019 15:54:02 #
Some of you seem surprised to find out that there are lenses with plastic parts including front barrels with plastic filter threads. You might also be surprised to know that there have been lenses since back in the eighties that have plastic BAYONET MOUNTS!!
The key thing to know is that after many surveys camera manufacturers discovered that with entry level cameras, only a small minority of users had more than one lens, and the crappy kit lens remained on the camera for its entire life.
Scary, no?
The key thing to know is that after many surveys camera manufacturers discovered that with entry level cameras, only a small minority of users had more than one lens, and the crappy kit lens remained on the camera for its entire life.
Scary, no?
Jan 17, 2019 19:32:13 #
Perhaps using a metal step up ring or maybe if you're lucky a same sized ring with metal threads could be a solution if frequent filter changing is anticipated.
FWAIW, I've used an old Canon EF 35-105 for years and still use my EF-S 10-18 with plastic lens mounts with great results.
FWAIW, I've used an old Canon EF 35-105 for years and still use my EF-S 10-18 with plastic lens mounts with great results.
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