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shot these last nite ---tried floating ISO. It choose 6400 for all but the first 2 which were 5000 ISO

3 and down were cropped on sides. Grainy Shot with Canon 85mm 1.8

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cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

Please tell us more. Camera? Full Frame or Crop Frame. Shutter Speed? Aperture? ISO? Mode? (Manual, etc.). Focusing mode? Personally, I like using an 85mm for girl's basketball. I tend to shoot in full manual, 2500 ISO, 1/800 - 1/1000th sec, wide open (F1.4) with flicker control ON. Best of luck.

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HI there, I shot these with a Canon 7D mark11-- Crop sensor. 1/800 @ 2.8-3.5 with a Canon 85mm 1.8 prime lens. I used Auto ISO, which did choose 6400 ISO, except for the first 2. I have been shooting setting ISO at 6400, so the
floating ISO worked well. The gym was well lit. I used Spot and 1 point AF, then switched to Expand AF area. And shot all Manual. I hope this helps. I rec. a lot of these ideas from Members on here. Indoor sports is fairly new for me to shoot. I like the 85mm also for inside. I have used the 100mm 2.8 which is ok too. But I've found that the Canon 200mm 2.8 prime is just to close for me. Oh ya! No Flicker for me. I read in a 7D Mark11 book that if it is on, it may slow down the continuous speed, which I have on the highest

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

As I am a Nikon shooter, I can't advise on focusing systems, but I use Group Focus on my Nikon and I would expect something similar is available on Canon. You shutter speed is good but I would OPEN UP YOUR LENS to its widest aperture. That will allow lower ISO and blow your background better. There is no need to buy a fast lens (F1.8) and shoot it stopped down in sports thinking you'll get better focus. YOU WILL NOT! The only thing that will help that is experience which is gained through practice. Shoot all you can stand, and then shoot some more. I shoot basketball, in my local school's gym: 1/1000th, F1.4, ISO 2500 all set manually. That comes from my experience shooting in the gym. My Flicker Reduction is on as it saves me gobs of time in post. I DO NOT use VR as that can really slow down focusing and is just not needed at 1/1000th! TRY IT! I've been doing this for over 50 years! Best of luck.

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Thanks you for the tips cjc2. I do shoot all manual. I shot a game at your settings with my 85m 1.8 and they were ok. So far the gyms lighting has been pretty good. If only someone with a Canon 7d mark 11 would also comment!! ha! Appreciate all comments and help

OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey

Stop cutting the feet off, you have plenty of head room to include the feet.

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Yes agree. Notice that. I always aim too high. Another thing to overcome. Thanks

OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey

Gotta aim high, it's how we get better :), just include the feet or crop to anything but a joint. Also, as long as your cropping you may as well straighten the verticals to plumb, (90° to level horizon). Caution though it may take off even more of the feet. So allow for cropping/straightening if you can't crop in camera. Some sport shots look great off kilter. :)

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I don't have (straighten) . Just have what came with Canon Camera soft wear. Trim and that's it. So I have to work on that in camera. But I will get there I don't even like to crop, but do on some horizontal shots. Thanks for looking Snap

Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada

Okay here we go. Your first two shots are tack sharp. That tells us where in feet your focus is the sharpest.
The rest of the shots the play is to close and the lens can't focus that fast no matter what your shutter speed is. Got to find the sweet spot and the first two is that I believe.
Cj2 tells me the same thing about shooting wide open, we go back and forth on the subject. He really knows what he's talking about. However I don't agree with him always. My 85mm 1.8 I really like it, but does have it's limitations. I just can't get the same clarity at 1.8 as I do at 2.2.
I forgot what you told us about an editing system. Do you have Photoshop or another one your using?
Your getting better, the first two shots again are right on..
Jules

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Thanks Jules. Check Jan. 12 set National challenge. I think you missed that one. No Photoshop. Only what came with Canon Cameras. The first 2 shots were further from where I was for the rest. Maybe try 50mm 1.8? Which would be about 80mm

david vt Loc: Vermont

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Agree with Jules and Cj2 overall. If you don’t want to go down to f1.8, I would look more at the low 2s and 2.8 max. Background, especially where it is so busy, is distracting

On cropping, you either need to get the whole feet, or cut them off at joint (knees or ankle). In this case, half a foot is not better than none (sorry - couldn’t resist).

I know you said you don’t do straightening, and now said you don’t have PP software that has it. To be blunt, if you want to get better, you have to get something. There are a number of free basic programs out there. If you used them for nothing more than crop/straighten and auto-exposure/color correction, I think you may see it is worth the effort. You have seen several of us try to help coach you on this. We would not be all saying this but from experience. With the fast moving subjects like BBall and the hard lines behind in gyms, trying to get and hold it right in camera is NOT where you want to be concentrating your time.

I use ON1 for my heavy lifting. That said, for quick .jpeg edits, I use the free Apple Photos editor, which takes about 30-60 seconds per keeper. Good investment of time for how much it improves results (well, at least compared to my SOOC - YMMV).

You would still improving each set. Keep shooting.....

Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada

I agree with David. A free editing program or for about $10.00 a month Photoshop or Lightroom would do wonders.

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Hi there, thanks again. I know you all are giving me super tips and I do appreciate it. I did have Picasa at one time on another computer and did like it and it did Straighten! But that died along with that computer. I just looked and there are so many dif. sites for Picasa, that I don't know which one is safe to download. I tried to find Apple Photos editor as you suggested, and it didn't come up.

When I shoot, I aim too high and therefor cutting off feet and getting too much top. Another to work on. Soon BB will be over for the season, so I'd better going on this!! Ha!! Got one starting Track, so maybe that will go better!? Thank you again. Still searching for that Free soft wear.

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Yes, searching for that free softwear. Had Picasa at one time. Liked and it was basic and easy. Thanks Jules