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Jan 14, 2019 21:35:04   #
paver Loc: Miami, Fl
 
Hi,
Please help me understand the difference between an image, (file), produced by a digital camera, and a film negetive, scanned into a pp program with a scanner.

Does the scanner determine the resolution of the scanned negitive?

I have a grasp on how a digital sensor captures light, and that the resolution is deretmined by the size and quantity of the sensor sites, but don't know about a scanner's
ability to compete with a sensor, when it comes to resolution.

Also, what can a pp program do to a scanned negitive vs. digital file, right from the camera.

You can't fix stupid, but you can fix ignorance!

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Jan 14, 2019 21:39:25   #
AJFRED Loc: Alabama
 
Great questions. I too will be interested in the replies for this topic.

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Jan 14, 2019 22:00:32   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
paver wrote:
Hi,
Please help me understand the difference between an image, (file), produced by a digital camera, and a film negetive, scanned into a pp program with a scanner.

Does the scanner determine the resolution of the scanned negitive?

I have a grasp on how a digital sensor captures light, and that the resolution is deretmined by the size and quantity of the sensor sites, but don't know about a scanner's
ability to compete with a sensor, when it comes to resolution.

Also, what can a pp program do to a scanned negitive vs. digital file, right from the camera.

You can't fix stupid, but you can fix ignorance!
Hi, br Please help me understand the difference be... (show quote)


With quality scanners the USER sets the scan resolution. In Epson scanners their "Professional" level allows the user a multitude of choices in scan levels and applied adjustments, many with sliding selectible levels.
Scans do not allow RAW level adjustments but PP programs have as much latitude with scanned jpegs as in camera jpegs.

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Jan 14, 2019 22:05:20   #
BlueMorel Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
You left out the ither option - using a DSLR to photograph the negative, producing a RAW image that you then post process in a program.

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Jan 14, 2019 22:34:48   #
steinr98
 
One must remember that scanning a negative is now a second generation file. A camera is a a first generation file and a raw file at that(if you shoot in Raw that is). Scanning using an Epson scanner( or most brands) allows the operator to set the dpi for the amount of (I will call it) density that one needs. However you never can match the original file in clarity. The original shot is "Always" king!!

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Jan 14, 2019 22:49:17   #
paver Loc: Miami, Fl
 
Thanks,
never thought of taking a pic. with a digital camera.

How would one illuminate the negitive to take the shot?

I might try that method before going the scanner route.

I have been playing around with several old film cameras that I used in the past, but I never got into processing the film myself.

I sure am learning!

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Jan 14, 2019 23:10:00   #
steinr98
 
They make a slide/35mm attachment that fits on to th ethreads fo a 58mm lens that you can take photos of our slides etc. runs about 100 bucks- it does work!

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Jan 14, 2019 23:19:48   #
paver Loc: Miami, Fl
 
That's cool!
I will check it out!

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Jan 15, 2019 03:32:34   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
paver wrote:
Thanks,
never thought of taking a pic. with a digital camera.

How would one illuminate the negitive to take the shot?

I might try that method before going the scanner route.

I have been playing around with several old film cameras that I used in the past, but I never got into processing the film myself.

I sure am learning!


I have a Canon Scanner. Will copy 35mm to 5" x 4" negs. and A4 prints. Many choices of resolution for the negs, finest setting just takes a little longer to scan.
I also copied straight to FF Nikon DSLR camera , using my Bowens Illumitran, or my Magnum constant light source (just like an enlarger colour-head, with dial in filtration
to get colours correct).Take a WB reading of the light source before adding the neg/trannie. If copying colour negative film with orange base, take a WB reading through a blank piece of film, first. Have fun...it can be very rewarding.

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Jan 15, 2019 06:24:41   #
Largobob
 
duplicate

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Jan 15, 2019 10:22:19   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
paver wrote:
Hi,
Please help me understand the difference between an image, (file), produced by a digital camera, and a film negetive, scanned into a pp program with a scanner.

Does the scanner determine the resolution of the scanned negitive?

I have a grasp on how a digital sensor captures light, and that the resolution is deretmined by the size and quantity of the sensor sites, but don't know about a scanner's
ability to compete with a sensor, when it comes to resolution.

Also, what can a pp program do to a scanned negitive vs. digital file, right from the camera.

You can't fix stupid, but you can fix ignorance!
Hi, br Please help me understand the difference be... (show quote)


I have also been wondering about this in a parallel fashion. To wit: "Am I going to get a better digital image of a 35 mm slide with a flat bed transparency scanner (think Epson Perfection V700) or a 35 mm slide copy adapter?

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Jan 15, 2019 10:23:45   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Pablo8 wrote:
I have a Canon Scanner. Will copy 35mm to 5" x 4" negs. and A4 prints. Many choices of resolution for the negs, finest setting just takes a little longer to scan.
I also copied straight to FF Nikon DSLR camera , using my Bowens Illumitran, or my Magnum constant light source (just like an enlarger colour-head, with dial in filtration
to get colours correct).Take a WB reading of the light source before adding the neg/trannie. If copying colour negative film with orange base, take a WB reading through a blank piece of film, first. Have fun...it can be very rewarding.
I have a Canon Scanner. Will copy 35mm to 5" ... (show quote)


Can you compare file quality and maximum reasonable print size of the native files between the scanner and the FF camera?

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Jan 15, 2019 10:39:17   #
Largobob
 
Duplicate

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Jan 15, 2019 11:00:52   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
paver wrote:
Does the scanner determine the resolution of the scanned negitive?

The better scanners offer the user a choice of resolution. The very inexpensive ones typically have only one resolution setting.
When in doubt, download the manual and read before buying the scanner.

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Jan 15, 2019 11:57:53   #
2666loco
 
I copied some slides using a slide copier from Spiratone bought long ago. I made a clear slide with tiny lettering from HO model decals to focus on, then loaded a slide into the copier. I put up a white foam board from Dollar Tree,and used a flash and aimed the copier at the foam board. The flash Neewer 750II and camera Nikon D700 exposed perfectly. Be sure to brush any dust off the negative. It should work copying negatives.

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