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Proclaim the truth...don't give more evidence.
Jan 13, 2019 06:24:46   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Sunday morning reminder: Unbelievers aren't that way because they lack evidence. They are unbelievers because they suppress the truth that they know...that God exists and that they are in trouble if they die in their sins. The bible says all men know that God exists...yet some suppress that knowledge in unrighteousness.

I know..I was unsaved for much of my life.

So resolve to proclaim the truth about God instead of giving evidence as if the unbeliever is the judge and God is on trial.

The real situation is that God is the judge and the unbeliever is on trial.

Never shrink from this truth...men are saved by God's word...not more evidence or more persuasive arguments.

After a morning of proclaiming the truth to some nasty atheists, I thought I'd mention that because it was on my mind.

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Jan 13, 2019 07:13:01   #
dpfoto Loc: Cape Coral, FL
 
AMEN Brother. God bless you.

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Jan 13, 2019 07:18:57   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
dpfoto wrote:
AMEN Brother. God bless you.


Thankyou, and you too.

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Jan 13, 2019 07:35:38   #
SueScott Loc: Hammondsville, Ohio
 
We are only called to plant the seeds - God gives the increase. Have a blessed Sunday!

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Jan 13, 2019 07:41:14   #
Nikonnorm Loc: East Gwillimbury Ont.
 
You know the greatest evidence for God are the ones saved by His
grace. I have known some terribly evil people,myself included that
have been completely transformed by belief in my lord and savior.
If you ask any honest person,that should be the perfect indisputable
proof that God exists.

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Jan 13, 2019 08:07:32   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Nikonnorm wrote:
You know the greatest evidence for God are the ones saved by His
grace. I have known some terribly evil people,myself included that
have been completely transformed by belief in my lord and savior.
If you ask any honest person,that should be the perfect indisputable
proof that God exists.


Heres the problem: folks arent morally honest....they are in rebellion to God.

Besides, atheists can transform their lives for the better all of the time.

Its not about evidence and convincing....thats the point of this post.

Have you seen the video “how to answer the fool”?

Its free now on youtube, its very good and goes over a lot of this stuff, i think its a very powerful video about the proper way to share the faith.

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Jan 13, 2019 08:07:56   #
GED Loc: North central Pa
 
I agree, evidence is both within us and around us everywhere. That voice of truth is instilled in each of us by our creator, when and if we decide to listen to it is up to us.
Have a wonderful day.

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Jan 14, 2019 07:00:26   #
melismus Loc: Chesapeake Bay Country
 
Please leave judgement to God, the Judge. Those "nasty atheists" need your love, your compassion, your leadership, not your judgement.

rpavich wrote:
Sunday morning reminder: Unbelievers aren't that way because they lack evidence. They are unbelievers because they suppress the truth that they know...that God exists and that they are in trouble if they die in their sins. The bible says all men know that God exists...yet some suppress that knowledge in unrighteousness.

I know..I was unsaved for much of my life.

So resolve to proclaim the truth about God instead of giving evidence as if the unbeliever is the judge and God is on trial.

The real situation is that God is the judge and the unbeliever is on trial.

Never shrink from this truth...men are saved by God's word...not more evidence or more persuasive arguments.

After a morning of proclaiming the truth to some nasty atheists, I thought I'd mention that because it was on my mind.
Sunday morning reminder: Unbelievers aren't that w... (show quote)

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Jan 14, 2019 07:19:14   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
melismus wrote:
Please leave judgement to God, the Judge. Those "nasty atheists" need your love, your compassion, your leadership, not your judgement.


Stop judging me.

See how easy it is to misuse that passage?


I can recognize that a person is a nasty atheist...because they are. That has no bearing on whether I believe that they can be saved (which is up to God) hence...I say proclaim the truth.

What those atheists need is the gospel....I gave the truth in love (as Peter puts it)

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Jan 14, 2019 08:53:50   #
melismus Loc: Chesapeake Bay Country
 
The only thing that can save a nasty atheist is love. No loving person would call another a nasty atheist. You and I are commanded to offer that love, first and foremost. Without love, all else is in vain.

rpavich wrote:
Stop judging me.

See how easy it is to misuse that passage?


I can recognize that a person is a nasty atheist...because they are. That has no bearing on whether I believe that they can be saved (which is up to God) hence...I say proclaim the truth.

What those atheists need is the gospel....I gave the truth in love (as Peter puts it)

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Jan 14, 2019 08:58:59   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
melismus wrote:
The only thing that can save a nasty atheist is love. No loving person would call another a nasty atheist. You and I are commanded to offer that love, first and foremost. Without love, all else is in vain.


Correction: the only thing that saves anyone is that the gospel is preached/given to them. God is the one who decides who responds correctly or not.

Newsflash...I can recognize that they are acting nasty and that they are an atheist but still love them enough to give them the truth. (you might want to read about John the baptist preaching to folks thusly:

“But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.”
(Matthew 3:7–8 ESV)

I guess John the Baptist was unloving...he actually called them snakes to their face. :(

Second; we are commanded to proclaim the gospel to all.

Anything else you want to clog this thread up with?

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Jan 14, 2019 09:50:33   #
melismus Loc: Chesapeake Bay Country
 
If John had had it all, there would have been no need for the coming of the Christ. Jesus covered John's shortcomings.

rpavich wrote:
Correction: the only thing that saves anyone is that the gospel is preached/given to them. God is the one who decides who responds correctly or not.

Newsflash...I can recognize that they are acting nasty and that they are an atheist but still love them enough to give them the truth. (you might want to read about John the baptist preaching to folks thusly:

“But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.”
(Matthew 3:7–8 ESV)

I guess John the Baptist was unloving...he actually called them snakes to their face. :(

Second; we are commanded to proclaim the gospel to all.

Anything else you want to clog this thread up with?
Correction: the only thing that saves anyone is th... (show quote)

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Jan 14, 2019 09:52:00   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
melismus wrote:
If John had had it all, there would have been no need for the coming of the Christ. Jesus covered John's shortcomings.


You can't be serious.

John proclaiming the gospel and calling them out that was was wrong?

I'm not wasting more time on this.

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Jan 14, 2019 09:55:40   #
melismus Loc: Chesapeake Bay Country
 
Let's get the logs out of our eyes.

rpavich wrote:
You can't be serious.

John proclaiming the gospel and calling them out that was was wrong?

I'm not wasting more time on this.

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Jan 26, 2019 13:49:07   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
My simple method of presenting Christ's love to others comes from a George Strait song: "I'll tell you what He's done for me, and I know what He'll do for you." We share the Good News, the Holy Spirit does the heavy lifting. Works for me...

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