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Jan 12, 2019 11:50:52   #
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National Challenge Games HS Wrestling Girls V BB and boys BB We won all. Girls BB 53 to 20

Here are some shots out of the 83. 6400 ISO @ 1/800 for all but the last 2. 1/640 on the last 2
Looking at settings first. Then work on others.

Thanks for any help

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Jan 13, 2019 09:32:56   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
Hi. This is a good set. Nice improvements. Don’t see any motion blur. Seems like a good set of settings in camera, and composition is better. Good action. Ball in the shot.

The focus seems better overall. If you are use matrix metering (I think someone called the Canon version of this was “evaluative”) then you can think about the issues this might cause in your last two shots. Note the defensive player in the middle at least 5 feet close than the player with the ball. Your AF will try to average, and if you are using that 100mm lens @ at f/2.8 and about 25 feet away, total DoF will be about 2 ft if the players were 25 ft away. Compare this to the first couple, where the group and ball are all in the same plane. Not saying I don’t like both shots, but, in the latter set, this is where matrix metering (vs spot) cannot overcome the physics of it. This is why I sometimes shoot spot metering

While I know you don’t want to do much/any PP, I think these would be better by a little tighter cropping (though these in general are tighter SOOC), a bit more straightening, and you might try pushing the exposure up a bit (seem a bit dark). Take a few of these, try them, and see if you really like the result better or not. (I would do and post an example back, but away from the computer that I can do that on at the moment).

Again, nice improvements. Keep shooting and posting....

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Jan 14, 2019 13:41:41   #
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david vt wrote:
Hi. This is a good set. Nice improvements. Don’t see any motion blur. Seems like a good set of settings in camera, and composition is better. Good action. Ball in the shot.

The focus seems better overall. If you are use matrix metering (I think someone called the Canon version of this was “evaluative”) then you can think about the issues this might cause in your last two shots. Note the defensive player in the middle at least 5 feet close than the player with the ball. Your AF will try to average, and if you are using that 100mm lens @ at f/2.8 and about 25 feet away, total DoF will be about 2 ft if the players were 25 ft away. Compare this to the first couple, where the group and ball are all in the same plane. Not saying I don’t like both shots, but, in the latter set, this is where matrix metering (vs spot) cannot overcome the physics of it. This is why I sometimes shoot spot metering

While I know you don’t want to do much/any PP, I think these would be better by a little tighter cropping (though these in general are tighter SOOC), a bit more straightening, and you might try pushing the exposure up a bit (seem a bit dark). Take a few of these, try them, and see if you really like the result better or not. (I would do and post an example back, but away from the computer that I can do that on at the moment).

Again, nice improvements. Keep shooting and posting....
Hi. This is a good set. Nice improvements. ... (show quote)


Thank you David. I will try the spot instead of evaluative tonite. This will be a gym I have not been in, so don't know about the lighting. I just noticed continuous AF is off. Should it be on for sports?

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Jan 14, 2019 14:17:53   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
Assuming you mean Continuous AF in the camera settings, not something on the lens.

I ALWAYS use AF continuous with BBF for sports. On my Nikon, the AF/AE lock button is set to activate AF-Continuous whenever pressed, which for me is pretty much all the time. If I take my thumb off, it locks focus. Sometimes, I might do this, for instance, in focusing in on a player’s face at the foul line, locking the focus, and then recomposing. In general tracking, BBF is usually “mashed on” 99% of the time.

The buttons and button location on your Cannon may be different, but principles are the same.

the only change I might make is D9 matrix focusing vs Single point, but I find I like single point better and leave it there 95% of time. Jules has indicated he is the opposite in this regard, and you can’t argue against his results.

In setting up BBF, one also has to set the shutter to not trigger focus (release only). You do have the option of setting priority in how it releases in terms of forcing a focus lock or not. I don’t force it to lock focus before releasing.

Good luck tonight

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Jan 14, 2019 14:33:06   #
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david vt wrote:
Assuming you mean Continuous AF in the camera settings, not something on the lens.

I ALWAYS use AF continuous with BBF for sports. On my Nikon, the AF/AE lock button is set to activate AF-Continuous whenever pressed, which for me is pretty much all the time. If I take my thumb off, it locks focus. Sometimes, I might do this, for instance, in focusing in on a player’s face at the foul line, locking the focus, and then recomposing. In general tracking, BBF is usually “mashed on” 99% of the time.

The buttons and button location on your Cannon may be different, but principles are the same.

the only change I might make is D9 matrix focusing vs Single point, but I find I like single point better and leave it there 95% of time. Jules has indicated he is the opposite in this regard, and you can’t argue against his results.

In setting up BBF, one also has to set the shutter to not trigger focus (release only). You do have the option of setting priority in how it releases in terms of forcing a focus lock or not. I don’t force it to lock focus before releasing.

Good luck tonight
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Yes I referring to Continuous AF in the camera menu. It is Disabled. Assuming it should be enabled. thank you

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Jan 17, 2019 10:58:27   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
david vt wrote:
Assuming you mean Continuous AF in the camera settings, not something on the lens.

I ALWAYS use AF continuous with BBF for sports. On my Nikon, the AF/AE lock button is set to activate AF-Continuous whenever pressed, which for me is pretty much all the time. If I take my thumb off, it locks focus. Sometimes, I might do this, for instance, in focusing in on a player’s face at the foul line, locking the focus, and then recomposing. In general tracking, BBF is usually “mashed on” 99% of the time.

The buttons and button location on your Cannon may be different, but principles are the same.

the only change I might make is D9 matrix focusing vs Single point, but I find I like single point better and leave it there 95% of time. Jules has indicated he is the opposite in this regard, and you can’t argue against his results.

In setting up BBF, one also has to set the shutter to not trigger focus (release only). You do have the option of setting priority in how it releases in terms of forcing a focus lock or not. I don’t force it to lock focus before releasing.

Good luck tonight
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Hi All: Yeah I tried single for sports but at my age I need all the help I can get trying to keep that little red square on the player. I shoot group to up the odds of 4 squares on the player to nail the focus. Boy they run fast. lol

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