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Jan 13, 2019 14:22:38   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
burkphoto wrote:


Adobe designed Lr to do 80% of what most pros need to do with their images. For the other 20%, Ps and other apps fill the gaps. This saves a tremendous amount of time!


My only argument here would be to say it does 90 to 95% of what I need to do. It does its job quickly and well!

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Jan 13, 2019 17:02:30   #
zucco
 
I brought my Aperture Library into Apple's "Photos" and added Luminar. While I have Elements 15, I still use Elements 10 because I'm accustomed to it. But, eventually, I'll use "15" more often. But, can anyone tell me what I can expect from Luminar 2018 as I conintue to get into it??
Zucco

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Jan 13, 2019 17:19:30   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
I don't have Lightroom, but use the organizer in PSE 15 that is similar. All of my over 8000 images are in one album, by date in File Explorer. Extensively use keywords in PSE Organizer. Ex. a Panorama at Calico CA has keywords -- Calico & Panorama. People could be listed under their name, the event or place. As many different keywords as needed. I usually add them when they are downloaded from the camera. A flower could have the place and date (usually just year), flower, maybe type of flower. With PSE also have layers and all other edits available.

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Jan 13, 2019 20:14:51   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
cjc2 wrote:
My only argument here would be to say it does 90 to 95% of what I need to do. It does its job quickly and well!


That’s true for many of us! I’d say the “art” crowd use Ps most often, followed by high end portrait photographers. Many seldom need Ps.

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Jan 13, 2019 21:43:24   #
Hip Coyote
 
You have a high octane camera and dont do much in the way of photo editing / enhancement? That is like having a Ferrari and keeping the speeds under 35 mph. LR is a great program and then get into Photoshop...unleash the capability of the camera and your abilities. For 10 bucks a month, it is a great purchase.

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Jan 17, 2019 16:03:08   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
I think that Lightroom is maybe one of the easiest to use. The controls are laid out in a logical order.
Sure there are a lot of controls, but you only use the ones that you want. I really don't know why people say that it is hard.

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Jan 17, 2019 16:46:02   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
topcat wrote:
I think that Lightroom is maybe one of the easiest to use. The controls are laid out in a logical order.
Sure there are a lot of controls, but you only use the ones that you want. I really don't know why people say that it is hard.


I also think that the "difficulty of learning" PP software is greatly exaggerated. Yes, there are difficult things that take considerable experience. Yes, if you attempt to learn everything possible at once, you will have a difficult time.

But that's not how we generally learn things; we build our vocabulary and skill set one tool at a time. I am far, far from a pro, but I've mastered the basic tonal and textural controls to the point where I actually improve my images consistently in Lightroom, maybe 25% of the way toward my goal. My Photoshop skills are further behind the learning curve, but build on the beginnings I made in PSE. For the most part, I can remove unwanted objects, change backgrounds, and do a few other tricks, but I don't think I've learned more than 1% of its capabilities - just haven't needed to or had the time to.

If you start using it, you'll find yourself mastering the procedures you repeat often. Don't worry about those you don't need yet - you'll be able to tackle them when you find yourself needing them consistently.

Andy

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Jan 17, 2019 18:16:56   #
Photocraig
 
Hi Toast,

I use Lightroom and Photoshop to a lesser extent. Like you, I usually do a small amount of processing (Developing in LR lingo) to one image at a time. Lightroom is intuitive and easy to use--especially at the surface level. On my first try, I was able to adjust some exposure issues, straighten the images, do a merging of three exposures of 5 separate photos and blend them into a panorama. So you can get 'er dunnn from the start. I, personally, think that as an Apple user, you should find Adobe Products more readily understandable than folks like me who come from a different starting point.

Gene51 knows from experience, that the beginning user most often is stumped by the Catalog. I think it is a vocabulary problem. There are TONS of help features, and YouTube tutorials, most of which have been referred to already. Tim Grey has one that, I'm certain was written for me--and all the rest-- called "Cleaning Up Your Mess in Lightroom." My Lightroom's still a mess, but it is better for Tim's suggestions.
C

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