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Jan 11, 2019 15:16:20   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
I shot this bottle of Amaretto without the glass. I liked the tones and the shadows created by the side lighting. After downloading it I felt it need something in addition to just the bottle. Of course the suns' position had moved and the lighting was changed. So I shot the glass using the side lighting available at the time. I used the bottle to cast the warm shadow on it. Finally I made a composite. FYC


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Jan 11, 2019 15:31:40   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Composites are sooo hard to get right. Your glass is floating; you'll see that most evident in the back side of the base. Love the golden colors and light. Much more to explore there, methinks.

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Jan 11, 2019 15:32:49   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
I think you need something in the glass or it serves no purpose.
NJFrank wrote:
I shot this bottle of Amaretto without the glass. I liked the tones and the shadows created by the side lighting. After downloading it I felt it need something in addition to just the bottle. Of course the suns' position had moved and the lighting was changed. So I shot the glass using the side lighting available at the time. I used the bottle to cast the warm shadow on it. Finally I made a composite. FYC

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Jan 11, 2019 15:35:44   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Also, you need to find a better spot on the table. That foreground looks kind of knarley.

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Jan 11, 2019 15:37:28   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Composites are sooo hard to get right. Your glass is floating; you'll see that most evident in the back side of the base. Love the golden colors and light. Much more to explore there, methinks.


I guess I will have to take a second look at it, and reposition the glass. Always good to have someone look and pick up things that can be missed by me

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Jan 11, 2019 15:39:16   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
CamB wrote:
I think you need something in the glass or it serves no purpose.


I thought of that, but after I pour it I would have to drink it. Which is not always a bad thing.

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Jan 11, 2019 15:41:31   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
CamB wrote:
Also, you need to find a better spot on the table. That foreground looks kind of knarley.


That is why I picked that spot. I liked the contrast between the table and the bottle.

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Jan 11, 2019 15:50:40   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
NJFrank wrote:
I shot this bottle of Amaretto without the glass. I liked the tones and the shadows created by the side lighting. After downloading it I felt it need something in addition to just the bottle. Of course the suns' position had moved and the lighting was changed. So I shot the glass using the side lighting available at the time. I used the bottle to cast the warm shadow on it. Finally I made a composite. FYC


Add a real glass with some drink in it (1/4 filled?) And lipstick on the rim. It always helps to give the impression that the product is being "used". For something like hot tea, a cup in front of the tea box with a very small chunk of dry ice to provide the "steam". That "hot cup" or partially "consumed" drink will "sell" much faster than the bottle or box by itself will.

Also, the glass is casting no shadow; when one cuts and paste, it has to be near perfect.

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Jan 11, 2019 15:58:07   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
wdross wrote:
Add a real glass with some drink in it (1/4 filled?) And lipstick on the rim. It always helps to give the impression that the product is being "used". For something like hot tea, a cup in front of the tea box with a very small chunk of dry ice to provide the "steam". That "hot cup" or partially "consumed" drink will "sell" much faster than the bottle or box by itself will.

Also, the glass is casting no shadow; when one cuts and paste, it has to be near perfect.
Add a real glass with some drink in it (1/4 filled... (show quote)


Seems you and CamB are in the same camp about something in the glass. Since it is a composite , I can simply delete the layer and redo. As always, I do appreciate everyone who take the time and effort to write down their thoughts and ideas.

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Jan 11, 2019 16:01:14   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
I agree about the nice warm amaretto colors you captured, Frank.

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Jan 11, 2019 16:05:15   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
UTMike wrote:
I agree about the nice warm amaretto colors you captured, Frank.


Think Mike, the warm tones is what caught my eye. As the sun streamed on the table I got the idea to shoot the Amaretto bottle.

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Jan 11, 2019 16:06:25   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
NJFrank wrote:
Think Mike, the warm tones is what caught my eye. As the sun streamed on the table I got the idea to shoot the Amaretto bottle.

With the bottle looking that good, I am not sure that my first thought would have been about photographing it.

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Jan 11, 2019 16:08:47   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
UTMike wrote:
With the bottle looking that good, I am not sure that my first thought would have been about photographing it.


Not to worry. A glass or two on a cold night is a wonderful thing.

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Jan 11, 2019 16:34:27   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
I get it about not having an empty glass. But I thought I would repost it to see if my fellow Hoggers think I am going in the right direction with eliminating the floating glass look and the lack of shadows. As always much appreciated for your analysis.


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Jan 11, 2019 16:50:35   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
This last version with the slight change to the glass has the wrong / non sRGB color space so it looks drab / different until opened.

You probably should consider the earlier comments about the issues in the table / open space in the foreground. I'd consider too the angle of view, changing to either lower & more direct. Or, rising slightly so the "horizon" of the table in the background matches the level of liquid or other aspects of the top of the bottle.

The text of the label is very sharp. The bottle seems soft, particularly the bottle top. The text on the top is just as important to the brand, so the DOF needs to cover both.

The photoshop work on the glass is nearly perfect, but still can be determined it wasn't actually there. Worse, it doesn't seem to add anything positive where placing an actual glass with liquid would seem to accomplish more with less editing effort.

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