pesfls Loc: Oregon, USA

That is correct. My incorrect assumption, due to all the electronic automation in this camera, was that using the ec would automatically make the adjustment and no further action by me would be required. That is where my confusion came from. My assumption was incorrect until now. Yes it’s simple, I simply did not know and decided to pass on what I learned in case it might be useful to others.

Bipod

If exposure compensation doesn't apply to manual mode, then the exposure
compensation knob shouldn't do anything in that mode. If there weren't a
shortage of knobs and buttons, it wouldn't

When the engine isn't running in your car, the gas pedal does not switch over
to turning on the radio. That's because there are plenty of knobs and buttons
on th dashboard--and because cars are designed by automotive engineers and
not by electronic engineers (yet).

They needed a way to change the meter scale in manual mode, and there's that
EC knob not doing anything....

I have an old Minolta Maxxum/Dynax 650si film camera that I use sometimes
that has no menu--all features are accessible without taking the camera down
from one's eye. That's why I still have it.

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

Perhaps I misunderstand something here. I own a 7D II and 5D IV and I've owned a 1D IV, 7D, 5D III, and a T2i. The only one that didn't have a thumbwheel is the T2i. The rest have 2 dials. One near the shutter button that adjusts the shutter speed and the one near my right thumb that adjusts the EC or in M it adjusts the F/stop. Period. I just tested it and even if I put it in auto ISO the thumb dial (I don't remember the technical name for that wheel) adjust the f/stop and the ISO adjusts automatically and the meter stays centered. If the ISO is set to anything else and I turn either dial, then the exposure meter will move because the exposure won't be correct until you have all 3 set for a proper exposure. But if I am shooting in M and I need to adjust for a shot a little darker or a little lighter, all I have to do is turn either wheel one way or the other as I'm watching the meter in the viewfinder and when the meter is say -2/3 it's like going -2/3 in EC. It just depends on which dial you turn and which way you turn it. That's how manual has always worked. Even if you have film, you put ASA400 film in the camera and then you adjust the Dials for the proper exposure. You can stop down for a longer shutter duration or you can open up for a shorter shutter duration. You can use the Shutter speed dial to speed up the shutter there for cutting light to the film and the exposure is darker.

Got to go to my photo club meeting. Bye

TomV Loc: Annapolis, Maryland

Same with my Sony SLT cams. I do most of my shooting in full manual mode and thus do not have much experience with ev compensation. With the EVF not nearly as much need for it either.

gessman Loc: Colorado

With my Sony a6500 it gives me an error message and won't let me shoot without a change to auto iso or to aperture or shutter speed preferred.

jeweler53

Yes!

foxfirerodandgun Loc: Stony Creek, VA

OK...............I'm a bit more confused. Simple yes or no question to each scenario. Using a D7200 in M mode, if the exposure compensation is changed either +/- does this effect the image being taken if auto ISO is on...........or if auto ISO is off? Thanks.

dave.m

amphoto1 is spot on:
EC can only change something which is being set by the camera, ie any exposure component which is auto.

On both my Canon cameras if Auto ISO is set and I set:
* Aperture priority, EV changes shutter speed until it runs out of headroom, then changes ISO;
* Shutter priority, EV changes ISO, (aperture is set wide open with Shutter priority so there is nowhere for it to go if you want to overexpose);
* Manual, if I change shutter speed or aperture, ISO changes to keep EV in the centre (remember the -/+ EV display IS an exposure meter 'dial') until it runs out of headroom then changes EV;

If ISO is fixed value and I set:
*Aperture priority, EV changes Shutter speed;
* Shutter priority, EV changes aperture;
* Manual, I can change shutter speed or aperture and the exposure meter goes up and down in direct relationship to direction of change. EV is not relevant.

In all cases, except Manual and fixed ISO, if the camera has insufficient light for an exposure it gives an error condition.

For me the only unexpected result is that Shutter priority set the aperture at maximum. But on thinking about it, where else should it set it?

Good question and although it was almost as I expected, until I tested it I couldn't be certain!

ppkwhat Loc: Gibsonton, FL

pesfls: I had no idea and now I do. I had Nikons D-70, D-80, and today I have the D-300 as backup to my D-750. Never tried but now you opened new horizons for me to explore on the Nikon World. Gosh, that's what I like in this forum: the teachings and help with almost all the cameras ever made - someone in this Forum has had the mentioned camera. Thanks a lot for opening up a great discussion and thanks everyone contributing with their experience on the subject.

pjeffers

Thanks...this was one of the best simple description of how it works.

Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA

Wow what a forum! Shows how complicated digital cameras can be.
Years ago with my Nikon I would match the needle and then drop down exposure 1/2 or 1 stop.
I liked the look of the stop down film. That is why all the correct exposure talk On UH drives me crazy.
The shooter should pick the exposure they like in a scene. I can know what I am getting with all
my Sony's by judging the viewfinder and the screen in live view. I must say Sony's imagery and
video is really terrific. But their menus and interface are a nightmare.
With a camera like the a7s and the a7s II which I use now with not to believe low light
capability the exposure I pick is really my call. I shoot raw and found fiddling in LR so so.
I prefer the quick fixes I do in PS.
If we took a look back on what our cameras do now compared to the past we would b amazed.
In a way it is a war of software nuances. Canon good science color which means more real skin tones etc.
Sony more contrasty very sharp different look. Great video.

marciamyers Loc: Georgetown, In.

Also agree this is great info and thank you.....I am only 1 year into photography and for the last 5 months have been largely inactive due to my husband having a severe stroke....he is home now but I am finding I have less time than I did when he was an inpatient......regardless I have a D7200 and a D750......had tried the ec with one.....don’t recall which now.....but thought either I or the camera was defective. Thanks for the info!

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Live and learn. Thanks for the reminder.

BebuLamar

Yes if Auto ISO is on.
No if Auto ISO is off. However, in this case this is what happens.
If you set your exposure in manual mode and do not care about what the meter indicates then No the EC has no effect. If you set your exposure so that the meter indicates 0 and then set the EC the meter will no longer indicates a 0 and if you readjust your exposure for the meter to indicate 0 again then the exposure changes by the same amount set on the EC.

olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida