Tariffs - Who pays it? (Page 5): I don’t recall having flushed...

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

LWW wrote:

Why are you fixated on that while being peachy with Barry lying the average US family out of $20K?

Answer that honestly and you will find enlightenment.

I don’t recall having flushed

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

davyboy wrote:

Most of the new jobs after losing your old one is lower paying

No they are not. The average salary has been increasing every single year since 1951 according to this government tabulation. That even includes the Carter and Obama years.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

I lived in Sharon, PA area for 40+ years so I know of the Pittsburgh and Cleveland areas...worked in both even. Moved to Harrisburg, NC and while taxes are lower here the roads and schools are not much better, just newer mostly.

But the question was is are any appliances even made in the US anymore? I don’t think it is many so if the prices are going up it may not because of the steel tariffs...

Steven Seward wrote:

I don't agree with your assessment that one countr... (show quote)

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

Notorious T.O.D. wrote:

I lived in Sharon, PA area for 40+ years so I know of the Pittsburgh and Cleveland areas...worked in both even. Moved to Harrisburg, NC and while taxes are lower here the roads and schools are not much better, just newer mostly.

But the question was is are any appliances even made in the US anymore? I don’t think it is many so if the prices are going up it may not because of the steel tariffs...

I did a little checking, and the top 5 washing machines made in America are by Whirlpool, General Electric, SpeedQueen, Amana, and Hotpoint. G.E., Whirlpool, Maytag, Viking, and Dacor all manufacture large appliances such as refrigerators, dryers, dishwashers, and oven ranges in the U.S.A.

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

Ok, so we would still have to look at what percentage of the cost of an appliance the steel makes and see how that compares to the tariff costs. Also domestic producers may increase the steel price even with the tariffs. I would think the cost increase of steel would be very small. Also these are not items that are purchased very often. I last purchased a washer and dryer in 2005. I would think other things could drive costs too. When I worked at GM they raised car prices about 4-5 percent per year on average. After a while that adds up and you end up with $50k cars, or more. And GM would always be beating up suppliers to cut prices...to the point of putting them out of business. It is a complex issue...

Steven Seward wrote:

I did a little checking, and the top 5 washing machines made in America are by Whirlpool, General Electric, SpeedQueen, Amana, and Hotpoint. G.E., Whirlpool, Maytag, Viking, and Dacor all manufacture large appliances such as refrigerators, dryers, dishwashers, and oven ranges in the U.S.A.

Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)

thom w wrote:

So, why does Trump feel the need to lie about who is paying the money?

If he told the public that we are paying for the tariffs he has imposed ... do I have to go any farther?
Didn't he also say Mexico would pay for the wall? One might ask, "Why is he asking the Democrats for the money?" The only money they can give to him is OURS.
It just sounds better to say someone else is footing the bill ... China , Mexico. The man just lies.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Howard5252 wrote:

If he told the public that we are paying for the tariffs he has imposed ... do I have to go any farther?
Didn't he also say Mexico would pay for the wall? One might ask, "Why is he asking the Democrats for the money?" The only money they can give to him is OURS.
It just sounds better to say someone else is footing the bill ... China , Mexico. The man just lies.

Thank you but I already knew you already knew that. My attempt was to stimulate some thought among those who turned your thread into one about tariffs rather than one about Trump lying. Fools mission I readily admit.

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

thom w wrote:

Thank you but I already knew you already knew that. My attempt was to stimulate some thought among those who turned your thread into one about tariffs rather than one about Trump lying. Fools mission I readily admit.

You still haven't explained what you meant about me getting a new prophet.

davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.

Steven Seward wrote:

No they are not. The average salary has been increasing every single year since 1951 according to this government tabulation. That even includes the Carter and Obama years.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

They maybe increasing but donor keep up with the cost of living

Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)

thom w wrote:

Thank you but I already knew you already knew that. My attempt was to stimulate some thought among those who turned your thread into one about tariffs rather than one about Trump lying. Fools mission I readily admit.

Ooop's; Sorry.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

foathog wrote:

I believe what he's getting at is that Trump is claiming that China is doing the paying.

Has he ever got anything right

mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area

Steven Seward wrote:

It's pretty obvious that the rest of the World knows where the greatest opportunities for economic advancement and human rights are. The only people who don't know, are the extreme L*****ts in our own country.

What a silly statement. Two points - First : the rest of the world does a much better job of allowing immigrants than we do.
Second- how would immigrants from Mexico and South America immigrate to China. You cannot walk and they do not have money to take a cruise ship.

mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area

Notorious T.O.D. wrote:

So if I accept your idea that because we have e***... (show quote)

You are either mistaken or purposely telling lies. Other countries have done a much better job than we have in allowing immigrants. Only a fool would think that immigrants from Mexico or South America could go to China. They cannot afford a cruise ship and so they depend on walking.

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

I am neither lying nor mistaken. But you are quite ignorant and it shows. The US is the most generous country in the world.

It is not the trip that is the problem with going to China, Russia, Japan or Saudi Arabia. It is the fact that they would not be allowed to go illegally to those countries and many others. Even getting in legally would be extremely difficult if not impossible there. Try going to Mexico illegally and see how that works out for you...

How many i******s are living with you? Maybe you need to take off your doors and post your welcome sign so they will know you are there for them. Do you lock your doors, if so that is wrong too...

mjmoore17 wrote:

You are either mistaken or purposely telling lies. Other countries have done a much better job than we have in allowing immigrants. Only a fool would think that immigrants from Mexico or South America could go to China. They cannot afford a cruise ship and so they depend on walking.

RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas

mjmoore17 wrote:

What a silly statement. Two points - First : the rest of the world does a much better job of allowing immigrants than we do.
Second- how would immigrants from Mexico and South America immigrate to China. You cannot walk and they do not have money to take a cruise ship.

Just like they do in our country the sneak in, they stowaway it’s easy people board ships all the time? LOL