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Challenge: "White Balance" Jan. 3-5, 2019
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Jan 4, 2019 19:00:30   #
PAToGraphy Loc: Portland ME area
 
And sometimes, the unusual color from a WB is best handled by transforming it into something else. I've "saved" a few big bloopers by doing this.

A bright blue Tungsten beach sunset to an oil painting
A bright blue Tungsten beach sunset to an oil pain...

Or - turn it into a wave design (photoshop)
Or - turn it into a wave design (photoshop)...

Or a wet "blue" branch becomes...
Or a wet "blue" branch becomes......

..a design
..a design...

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Jan 4, 2019 19:14:56   #
Sunnybuck Loc: Pleasanton, Kansas
 
PAToGraphy wrote:
Sunny, thanks for participating. Your backyard looks like mine! Biggest differences are the "blues". Cloudy and shade seem to bring the image to life. Something I read months ago said those 2 WBs are particularly useful for Fall leaf colors. The mannequins: a great study! This would fall under "mixed lighting - the light and I think I detect some window light? That's a situation, according to the articles, in which "auto" WB usually fails. To my eye, the 2 "Cloudy" ones seem the best rendering of the image. Are these in your home or a theater?
Sunny, thanks for participating. Your backyard loo... (show quote)


Thanks Pat. My back yard is all trees with a creek running through it. I live on a small two acre spread in town. It's a real hassle keeping the grass cut in the summertime. I'll have to remember the 2 WB's come next fall. I always try to shoot in the correct WB condition, but as this exercise has shown me, that may not always be what the image needs.

The mannequins were my mother's personal store mannequins, that she religiously dressed in different attire. They were left to me when she passed away and now reside at my home. These images are at my home. I'm trying to keep up with her, but I'm just not as talented as she was when choosing regalia.

The photo that was shot in "cloudy with the oops flash" most closely depicts the actual tone of my drapes and counter balances the light permeating through them. However, if you notice in the 2 flash images, there is a shadow cast behind the little girls hair, which looks like a blurred image. There is also defused window light coming from the right side of all the indoor mannequin images.

I'll try to get out again tomorrow and try a different venue.

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Jan 4, 2019 19:38:39   #
PAToGraphy Loc: Portland ME area
 
Sunnybuck wrote:
Thanks Pat. My back yard is all trees with a creek running through it. I live on a small two acre spread in town. It's a real hassle keeping the grass cut in the summertime. I'll have to remember the 2 WB's come next fall. I always try to shoot in the correct WB condition, but as this exercise has shown me, that may not always be what the image needs.

The mannequins were my mother's personal store mannequins, that she religiously dressed in different attire. They were left to me when she passed away and now reside at my home. These images are at my home. I'm trying to keep up with her, but I'm just not as talented as she was when choosing regalia.

The photo that was shot in "cloudy with the oops flash" most closely depicts the actual tone of my drapes and counter balances the light permeating through them. However, if you notice in the 2 flash images, there is a shadow cast behind the little girls hair, which looks like a blurred image. There is also defused window light coming from the right side of all the indoor mannequin images.

I'll try to get out again tomorrow and try a different venue.
Thanks Pat. My back yard is all trees with a cree... (show quote)


Interesting, Sunny, about the mannequins. I have enough trouble getting myself dressed let alone trying to keep up wth appropriate dress for the mannequins! Yes, I noticed that w the flash. I really dislike flash because no matter how many videos I watch, how much practice I do - it NEVER comes out right!! AND we have 10X the acreage you do, BUT we too have a brook running through it to the river bordering the back of the property.

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Jan 4, 2019 20:11:30   #
User ID
 
PAToGraphy wrote:

p2. Appreciate your post. #2 is unique and I do love the
theater too. Were these all on Auto WB or did you change
the WB depending on the lighting situation? I am thinking
you changed from auto to fluorescent or "incandescent"
for the indoor people portraits?


I sometimes manual set WB but do not recall WB for
particular pictures. OTOH, my personal default settings
for saturation and contrast are rather flat and muted,
such that the SOOC jpegs are flat and unattractive, not
suitable for viewing. This avoids over-saturation of any
locally "hot" colors and preserves plenty of shadow and
highlight tone that might have blocked up or blown out
if I were shooting "ready-to-use" SOOC jpegs. Since all
my initial output NEEDS plenty of PP, and since I don't
allow any strong color casts to overwhelm the image, it
hardly matters what my exact WB is at the moment of
exposure. Plenty of data is preserved and plenty of PP
will be needed.

Here's a SOOC and then the editted result. The room is
lit by both incandescent and fluorescent sources. I did
check the EXIF for this example, and for WB it reports
only "manual". It does not offer further detail about it.


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Jan 4, 2019 20:53:27   #
Roadrunner Loc: Quebec, Canada
 
PAToGraphy wrote:
RR, Thanks for participating. Blue snow is better than yellow snow, but I like #1 best - ?Auto


Shot in Manual hand held.....

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Jan 4, 2019 23:11:14   #
Photogirl17 Loc: Glenwood, Ark.
 
boberic wrote:
These were taken through the windshield within 10 feet of each other. ( left the windshield in on purpose to remind me of the shoot)


Nice shots Bob..where was your White balance set..

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Jan 4, 2019 23:18:55   #
Photogirl17 Loc: Glenwood, Ark.
 
PAToGraphy wrote:
I tried different white balances on a glass globe hanging from an incandescent light over my kitchen sink. The remaining pix - cloudy and shade - were increasingly "warm". You can't see my hanging glass ball, but knowing the light is incandescent that image is the truest to the real thing. Auto is pretty good but not as vivid as incandescent or the "real thing." So what??? If I were to be shooting people or objects lit by the light of a table lamp etc. I would try both auto and incandescent settings.
I tried different white balances on a glass globe ... (show quote)


I like the Incandescent Shot..Pg. 3

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Jan 4, 2019 23:20:26   #
Photogirl17 Loc: Glenwood, Ark.
 
Sunnybuck wrote:
Here's my second set, shot indoors under incandescent and natural light at about 4:00 pm. Mother's mannequins redressed. I'm in search of Steam Punk outfits for them next.


Really like the Shade setting on both sets..Pg. 3

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Jan 4, 2019 23:27:57   #
Photogirl17 Loc: Glenwood, Ark.
 
January has begun It's time to think about Challenges for February''

PM Photogirl17 with your Challenge Ideas and Dates..

Remember No Hosts means no Challenges..


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Jan 4, 2019 23:46:56   #
PAToGraphy Loc: Portland ME area
 
User ID wrote:
I sometimes manual set WB but do not recall WB for
particular pictures. OTOH, my personal default settings
for saturation and contrast are rather flat and muted,
such that the SOOC jpegs are flat and unattractive, not
suitable for viewing. This avoids over-saturation of any
locally "hot" colors and preserves plenty of shadow and
highlight tone that might have blocked up or blown out
if I were shooting "ready-to-use" SOOC jpegs. Since all
my initial output NEEDS plenty of PP, and since I don't
allow any strong color casts to overwhelm the image, it
hardly matters what my exact WB is at the moment of
exposure. Plenty of data is preserved and plenty of PP
will be needed.

Here's a SOOC and then the editted result. The room is
lit by both incandescent and fluorescent sources. I did
check the EXIF for this example, and for WB it reports
only "manual". It does not offer further detail about it.
I sometimes manual set WB but do not recall WB for... (show quote)


My EXIF doesn't record the WB either. Thanks for your response and your posts. I rarely change my WB, but thought it might be worth revisiting. Have learned a lot from preparing the challenge. There are times when I purposely change WB - not often, but sometimes. I always shoot RAW and RAW images can be "flat" also. WB, IMO, is just one of several camera features I rarely use to it's potential. Important thing is to know it's there and what it does should I need it. I am enriched hearing how others "work" their pics. Everyone works differently and it's the result that counts. There seems to be many ways to achieve the result one wants. That's what makes photography so interesting and challenging.

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Jan 5, 2019 00:29:48   #
William Loc: Mississippi
 
PAToGraphy wrote:
And sometimes, the unusual color from a WB is best handled by transforming it into something else. I've "saved" a few big bloopers by doing this.


wild/thang@
you/make/@
my/heart/@
sing/wild/thing@

you
you...

make
make...

everthing
everthing...

groovy
groovy...

wildthing
wildthing...

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Jan 5, 2019 00:35:46   #
William Loc: Mississippi
 
wild thing was a good thing
for foot stomping foot work

boot/black
boot/black...
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block of the block
block of the block...
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blocked but heading there
blocked but heading there...
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Jan 5, 2019 00:49:05   #
William Loc: Mississippi
 
leave it on auto

and yo ...
and yo ......
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heave ho ...
heave ho ......
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Jan 5, 2019 00:55:36   #
PAToGraphy Loc: Portland ME area
 
William wrote:
wild/thang@
you/make/@
my/heart/@
sing/wild/thing@


Haven't heard those words/song in a while!

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Jan 5, 2019 00:56:31   #
PAToGraphy Loc: Portland ME area
 
William wrote:
leave it on auto


Love the posts, Bill. Time for me to have been in bed - OOPS!

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