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Challenge: "White Balance" Jan. 3-5, 2019
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Jan 2, 2019 20:52:45   #
PAToGraphy (a regular here)
 
It's been a while since we explored "White Balance". "The color of an object is affected by the lighting conditions under which it is viewed. Ours eyes and brain compensate for different types of light so...we see a white object as white regardless of the lighting. Digital cameras need help to compensate for different types of light. 'White Balance' is that help." (Setting White Balance by Lindsay Silverman). Forum policy says "no direct links to articles", so please copy the links below into your browser BUT be sure to remove the ( ) or links will not work. Do NOT remove the info between the parentheses. The articles are short, give examples and explanations.

https:(//digital-photography-school).com/introduction-to-white-balance/

https:(//photographylife).com/what-is-white-balance-in-photography

For this challenge: select a subject and begin with AWB, take the same image using another WB setting - take an image with each WB setting and note differences - or not. Post 3 or 4 and identify the WB setting. CAUTION: be sure to reset your WB to your "normal" setting when done.

My first example: was using AWB at sunset at the ocean with a lot of moisture in the air. I was shocked when I saw the image. The wet air acted like a prism and my camera clearly did not see the scene as my eyes did. YES editing programs may be able to compensate WB, but the goal is to "get it right" in the camera.
As shot
As shot...
Because this was from my archives, I made a copy and used the WB options in Lightroom (which are the same as on my camera)
Because this was from my archives, I made a copy a...
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Lightroom Auto
Lightroom Auto...
LR Tungsten
LR Tungsten...
LR Fluorescent
LR Fluorescent...
LR Daylight. My eyes could see very little to no difference between Daylight, Cloudy, Flash, and Shade
LR Daylight. My eyes could see very little to no d...

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Jan 2, 2019 22:22:57   #
Roadrunner (a regular here)
 
PAToGraphy wrote:
It's been a while since we explored "White Balance". "The color of an object is affected by the lighting conditions under which it is viewed. Ours eyes and brain compensate for different types of light so...we see a white object as white regardless of the lighting. Digital cameras need help to compensate for different types of light. 'White Balance' is that help." (Setting White Balance by Lindsay Silverman). Forum policy says "no direct links to articles", so please copy the links below into your browser BUT be sure to remove the ( ) or links will not work. Do NOT remove the info between the parentheses. The articles are short, give examples and explanations.

https:(//digital-photography-school).com/introduction-to-white-balance/

https:(//photographylife).com/what-is-white-balance-in-photography

For this challenge: select a subject and begin with AWB, take the same image using another WB setting - take an image with each WB setting and note differences - or not. Post 3 or 4 and identify the WB setting. CAUTION: be sure to reset your WB to your "normal" setting when done.

My first example: was using AWB at sunset at the ocean with a lot of moisture in the air. I was shocked when I saw the image. The wet air acted like a prism and my camera clearly did not see the scene as my eyes did. YES editing programs may be able to compensate WB, but the goal is to "get it right" in the camera.
It's been a while since we explored "White Ba... (show quote)


This is funny...Iwas looking all over the place and could not find it...I had forgotten that my camera is set up in French LOLOL

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Jan 2, 2019 22:48:20   #
PAToGraphy (a regular here)
 
Roadrunner wrote:
This is funny...Iwas looking all over the place and could not find it...I had forgotten that my camera is set up in French LOLOL


Now THAT is funny. We are both up too late! See you tomorrow.

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Jan 2, 2019 23:45:48   #
dane004
 
[quote=PAToGraphy]It's been a while since we explored "White Balance". "The color of an object is affected by the lighting conditions under which it is viewed. Ours eyes and brain compensate for different types of light so...we see a white object as white regardless of the lighting. Digital cameras need help to compensate for different types of light. 'White Balance' is that help." (Setting White Balance by Lindsay Silverman). Forum policy says "no direct links to articles", so please copy the links below into your browser BUT be sure to remove the ( ) or links will not work. Do NOT remove the info between the parentheses. The articles are short, give examples and explanations.

Pat thanks for hosting the challenge. Very nice explanation, and Photos.

Will try to post but all my photos and PP tools are in a dead computer sitting in the cold cold garage.

Dane

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Jan 3, 2019 08:37:28   #
catchlight..
 
Good step in understanding WB, K value and ultimately setting something other than AWB in camera...

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Jan 3, 2019 09:16:28   #
PAToGraphy (a regular here)
 
catchlight.. wrote:
Good step in understanding WB, K value and ultimately setting something other than AWB in camera...


Thank you!

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Jan 3, 2019 09:26:18   #
PAToGraphy (a regular here)
 
Pick a subject common to your eye and try the different white balance settings. Here's one subject some of you have seen. None have been edited. What's the point? Knowing what the settings offer (the image gets warmer as I went through the options), I might choose a warmer setting to give a sunset feel. It can also be the start of some PP work.
Auto (oops on the focus)
Auto  (oops on the focus)...
Tungsten
Tungsten...
Fluorescent
Fluorescent...
Bright sun/Daylight
Bright sun/Daylight...
Cloudy
Cloudy...
Shade
Shade...

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Jan 3, 2019 09:27:24   #
HardwareGuy
 
PAToGraphy, Have you ever used the ExpoDisc? Your thoughts? Ever since reading a recent article about it, it looks really interesting.

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Jan 3, 2019 09:59:18   #
Redmond
 
Thank you for reminding me about WB something to think about when taking pictures. Thanks

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Jan 3, 2019 10:00:27   #
PAToGraphy (a regular here)
 
I chose the last image "Shade" as a starting point. This was a twilight close to sunset image. I used some Lightroom presets and then another editor. You may not like the result, but the intent is to show how a white balance can be used to "work" an image. Could I have achieved the same result using AWB or another WB? Possibly, but "shade" WB was already "warm" it was easy to use it as a baseline.
Original "Shade" WB
Original "Shade" WB...
LightRoom presets: Blue hour soft filter, New Violet,removed some yellow, increased saturation of reds, purple, magenta and decreased highlights
LightRoom presets: Blue hour soft filter, New Viol...
In another editor chose Urbex preset, added a glow filter and vignette
In another editor chose Urbex preset, added a glow...

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Jan 3, 2019 10:01:45   #
PAToGraphy (a regular here)
 
Redmond wrote:
Thank you for reminding me about WB something to think about when taking pictures. Thanks



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Jan 3, 2019 10:08:30   #
PAToGraphy (a regular here)
 
HardwareGuy wrote:
PAToGraphy, Have you ever used the ExpoDisc? Your thoughts? Ever since reading a recent article about it, it looks really interesting.


No I haven't - hadn't heard of it till you mentioned it. I just looked it up. Interesting and I would like to try it. It does seem to take a lot of steps and could be cumbersome on a fast moving shoot. I rarely set Manual WB (for which this sounds useful). Thanks for posting info about this tool.

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Jan 3, 2019 10:31:37   #
dane004
 
PAToGraphy wrote:
Pick a subject common to your eye and try the different white balance settings. Here's one subject some of you have seen. None have been edited. What's the point? Knowing what the settings offer (the image gets warmer as I went through the options), I might choose a warmer setting to give a sunset feel. It can also be the start of some PP work.


PAT another nice group.

My Canon M3 and 60D are set on M that leaves 3 Items to think about. I have changed the WB while shooting and did not like the results. AWB works great for me. I have found that PS and LR have taken a lot of my enjoyment out of Photography they remind me to much of the Engineering programs I used when I was working. I do very little PP most of it with Elements 10 or 11.

I will However give it a try.

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Jan 3, 2019 11:31:10   #
lnightng7
 
PAToGraphy wrote:
I chose the last image "Shade" as a starting point. This was a twilight close to sunset image. I used some Lightroom presets and then another editor. You may not like the result, but the intent is to show how a white balance can be used to "work" an image. Could I have achieved the same result using AWB or another WB? Possibly, but "shade" WB was already "warm" it was easy to use it as a baseline.


Think I like the middle one with Lightroom best.

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Jan 3, 2019 13:49:26   #
PAToGraphy (a regular here)
 
dane004 wrote:
PAT another nice group.

My Canon M3 and 60D are set on M that leaves 3 Items to think about. I have changed the WB while shooting and did not like the results. AWB works great for me. I have found that PS and LR have taken a lot of my enjoyment out of Photography they remind me to much of the Engineering programs I used when I was working. I do very little PP most of it with Elements 10 or 11.

I will However give it a try.
PAT another nice group. img src="https://static.u... (show quote)


Thanks, dane. Do something out of the box with it. Use one of the oddly toned ones to make an abstract or something. Is your workshop lit with tungsten or fluorescent? If so, might be interesting to pick an object under the light and shoot it in Auto, Tungsten, and Fluorescent to see if there's a difference.

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