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Jan 1, 2019 17:57:50   #
Bipod
 
Black Elk Peak wrote:
Back in 2008 I purchased a Sony a300 which I liked very much. In 2013 I was ready for a replacement and purchased a Sony a58. Shortly thereafter I purchased a Tamron 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC. This lens has been on the camera 95% of the time and has given me great performance. Although it is around five years old, the a58 is in excellent condition and takes great pictures. I have babied it and it is still nice. A few months ago I decided to upgrade. Since Sony has been so good for me, I decided to purchase a Sony a6000. Sony has, again for me, hit a home run. I have also purchased Sigma 16mm f1.4, a Sigma 30mm f2.8 EX DN, and a Sony 18-135mm f3.5-6.3 lens. I am very happy with my purchase. Nice camera, nice pictures, nice features. I have no buyers remorse. A fun little camera.

Vaughan K.
Back in 2008 I purchased a Sony a300 which I liked... (show quote)

Thanks for the product endorsement. I'm sure the manufacturer (what wouldn't be you, would it?)
appreciates it.

Have you tried the fast, friendly service and delicious Chiken Fries at Burger King,
America's premier fast-food restaurant?

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Jan 1, 2019 18:00:36   #
Naptown Gaijin
 
n3eg wrote:
I took a cross-country trip to Philadelphia to visit family in June, and had fun shooting interesting road signs and scenery there and back. It was all one-handed while driving with micro four thirds. I wouldn't do that with a DSLR.


Not very smart to drive with one hand and take photos with the other. Sorry to say you have set a bad example, IMHO.

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Jan 1, 2019 18:28:47   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Black Elk Peak wrote:
Back in 2008 I purchased a Sony a300 which I liked very much. In 2013 I was ready for a replacement and purchased a Sony a58. Shortly thereafter I purchased a Tamron 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC. This lens has been on the camera 95% of the time and has given me great performance. Although it is around five years old, the a58 is in excellent condition and takes great pictures. I have babied it and it is still nice. A few months ago I decided to upgrade. Since Sony has been so good for me, I decided to purchase a Sony a6000. Sony has, again for me, hit a home run. I have also purchased Sigma 16mm f1.4, a Sigma 30mm f2.8 EX DN, and a Sony 18-135mm f3.5-6.3 lens. I am very happy with my purchase. Nice camera, nice pictures, nice features. I have no buyers remorse. A fun little camera.

Vaughan K.
Back in 2008 I purchased a Sony a300 which I liked... (show quote)

Sony has been VERY good to me also, starting in 2013 with an A7S then an A7R followed by an A7 II & A7R II as well as a RX10 III & IV.

bwa

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Jan 1, 2019 20:29:00   #
jaziey.g
 
I am in the process of switching from Nikon to Sony. I have a Nikon d500 that I’m not quite ready to part with. I use it for work. But I have sold all but 3 lens. I’ve even sold my beloved 24-70mm 2.8. With the proceeds and savings, I’ve just purchased an a7rlll, an 85mm f1.4 prime and a 24-105 f4. I’m loving the camera and will post pics when I hv some time. I had previous Sony experience with an a6000 and I think Sony has progressed nicely. Focusing is fast and sharp, and what u see is what u get in evf. I will be seeing in the next few how it handles with sport shooting.

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Jan 1, 2019 21:48:59   #
gwilliams6
 
jaziey.g wrote:
I am in the process of switching from Nikon to Sony. I have a Nikon d500 that I’m not quite ready to part with. I use it for work. But I have sold all but 3 lens. I’ve even sold my beloved 24-70mm 2.8. With the proceeds and savings, I’ve just purchased an a7rlll, an 85mm f1.4 prime and a 24-105 f4. I’m loving the camera and will post pics when I hv some time. I had previous Sony experience with an a6000 and I think Sony has progressed nicely. Focusing is fast and sharp, and what u see is what u get in evf. I will be seeing in the next few how it handles with sport shooting.
I am in the process of switching from Nikon to Son... (show quote)



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Jan 1, 2019 22:15:26   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
burkphoto wrote:
Thanks. Pardon me while I keep my ego in check!


Let me help you with that.

The HI RES feature on the 3 OMD and the G9 matches FF DR and the one in the EM1 mark2 beats most FF results. 64 and 80mp files are an excellent choice for landscape photography. Even Tony Northrup uses it for his landscape work.

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Jan 1, 2019 22:20:31   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Bipod wrote:
Thanks for the product endorsement. I'm sure the manufacturer (what wouldn't be you, would it?)
appreciates it.

Have you tried the fast, friendly service and delicious Chiken Fries at Burger King,
America's premier fast-food restaurant?




Is there medication for paranoia? TROLL

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Jan 1, 2019 23:19:07   #
calla Loc: California
 
Wow!!...as always, you are a wealth of information Bill/Burkphoto! I always take note and am interested in your responses!
Personally, I currently have a Sony a7ii. Have used Nikons and Canons in the past, but I'm really liking my Sony. Drooling over the a7iii (that is about the most I can 'afford', now that I'm in retirement mode!)....would love to upgrade....maybe later this year. Overall, happy I made the switch though.

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Jan 3, 2019 19:07:35   #
Bipod
 
bwana wrote:
Sony has been VERY good to me also, starting in 2013 with an A7S then an A7R followed by an A7 II & A7R II as well as a RX10 III & IV.

bwa

Sony is a giant company with huge resources. However, it's known for its mass-market consumer products.
And it only entered the high-end camera business in 2006, when it bought Konica Minolta's line of a-mount
digital cameras. Before that, it offered low-end cameras like the DSC series.
https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/CorporateInfo/History/sonyhistory-g.html

It's first act in acquiring the Minolta product line was to leave millions of a-mount Maxxum film camera owners
in the lurch.. Orphaned overnight.

It's contribution to the Alpha line was the SLT -- replacing the swinging mirror with a fixed partially-transmissive
mirror. Longer exposure. Low-resolution, low-contrast, battery-draining EVF. But heck, what matters is
cutting manufacturing costs!

Konica Minolta's Maxxum DSLRs use a partially transmissive mirror for the AF sensor and meter, but it
swung out of the way for the exposure. And they have large, sharp OVFs.

In 2009, Sony cancelled the two best cameras it ever made: the a850 and a900 DSLRs.
As welll as all it's other DSLRs.

Currently, Sony only makes one FF camera: the a99 II SLT. FF is not important--because image quality is
not important.---making money is important! APS-C sensor is cheaper than a FF sensor.

If Sony put its R&D into making better cameras, it could be a great camera company. But instead,
it puts its R&D into cutting costs and marketing products which do not advance the state of the art
and in fact are moving backward -- to smaller sensors, lower resolution, etc.

Unfortunately, Sony's commitment to cameras and photography appears to be about the same as
Honda Motor Company's commitment to lawnmowers and water pumps. Great engine, but....

This shouldn't surprise anyone. Sony's best known product remains the Walkman personal casette player,
eleased in 1979 -- within a year or two of when Nikon released the F3 and Canon released the New F-1.

Minolta was a truly innovative camera company that invented many milestones--including the first SRL
camera with integrated AF and motorized film advance (the Maxxum 7000). Sony isn't.

Sony was the Budweiser of home stereo equipment. It was not in the same category as McAdcom, NAD,
Conrad Johnson, Dynaco, Nakamichi,Audio Research or even Harmon-Kardon. It was (and is) consumer crud.

Don't expect a leopard to change its spots.

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Jan 3, 2019 20:19:21   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Bipod wrote:
Sony is a giant company with huge resources. However, it's known for its mass-market consumer products.
And it only entered the high-end camera business in 2006, when it bought Konica Minolta's line of a-mount
digital cameras. Before that, it offered low-end cameras like the DSC series.
https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/CorporateInfo/History/sonyhistory-g.html

It's first act in acquiring the Minolta product line was to leave millions of a-mount Maxxum film camera owners
in the lurch.. Orphaned overnight.

It's contribution to the Alpha line was the SLT -- replacing the swinging mirror with a fixed partially-transmissive
mirror. Longer exposure. Low-resolution, low-contrast, battery-draining EVF. But heck, what matters is
cutting manufacturing costs!

Konica Minolta's Maxxum DSLRs use a partially transmissive mirror for the AF sensor and meter, but it
swung out of the way for the exposure. And they have large, sharp OVFs.

In 2009, Sony cancelled the two best cameras it ever made: the a850 and a900 DSLRs.
As welll as all it's other DSLRs.

Currently, Sony only makes one FF camera: the a99 II SLT. FF is not important--because image quality is
not important.---making money is important! APS-C sensor is cheaper than a FF sensor.

If Sony put its R&D into making better cameras, it could be a great camera company. But instead,
it puts its R&D into cutting costs and marketing products which do not advance the state of the art
and in fact are moving backward -- to smaller sensors, lower resolution, etc.

Unfortunately, Sony's commitment to cameras and photography appears to be about the same as
Honda Motor Company's commitment to lawnmowers and water pumps. Great engine, but....

This shouldn't surprise anyone. Sony's best known product remains the Walkman personal casette player,
eleased in 1979 -- within a year or two of when Nikon released the F3 and Canon released the New F-1.

Minolta was a truly innovative camera company that invented many milestones--including the first SRL
camera with integrated AF and motorized film advance (the Maxxum 7000). Sony isn't.

Sony was the Budweiser of home stereo equipment. It was not in the same category as McAdcom, NAD,
Conrad Johnson, Dynaco, Nakamichi,Audio Research or even Harmon-Kardon. It was (and is) consumer crud.

Don't expect a leopard to change its spots.
Sony is a giant company with huge resources. Howe... (show quote)

"Currently, Sony only makes one FF camera: the a99 II SLT."
What a total load of bullshit!! The whole A series is full frame!

Did Sony pee in your morning coffee!?

bwa

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Jan 3, 2019 22:31:45   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
bwana wrote:
"Currently, Sony only makes one FF camera: the a99 II SLT."
What a total load of bullshit!! The whole A series is full frame!

Did Sony pee in your morning coffee!?

bwa


The A77/A77 mark2 are not FF, but APSC.

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Jan 3, 2019 22:36:55   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Bipod wrote:
Sony is a giant company with huge resources. However, it's known for its mass-market consumer products.
And it only entered the high-end camera business in 2006, when it bought Konica Minolta's line of a-mount
digital cameras. Before that, it offered low-end cameras like the DSC series.
https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/CorporateInfo/History/sonyhistory-g.html

It's first act in acquiring the Minolta product line was to leave millions of a-mount Maxxum film camera owners
in the lurch.. Orphaned overnight.

It's contribution to the Alpha line was the SLT -- replacing the swinging mirror with a fixed partially-transmissive
mirror. Longer exposure. Low-resolution, low-contrast, battery-draining EVF. But heck, what matters is
cutting manufacturing costs!

Konica Minolta's Maxxum DSLRs use a partially transmissive mirror for the AF sensor and meter, but it
swung out of the way for the exposure. And they have large, sharp OVFs.

In 2009, Sony cancelled the two best cameras it ever made: the a850 and a900 DSLRs.
As welll as all it's other DSLRs.

Currently, Sony only makes one FF camera: the a99 II SLT. FF is not important--because image quality is
not important.---making money is important! APS-C sensor is cheaper than a FF sensor.

If Sony put its R&D into making better cameras, it could be a great camera company. But instead,
it puts its R&D into cutting costs and marketing products which do not advance the state of the art
and in fact are moving backward -- to smaller sensors, lower resolution, etc.

Unfortunately, Sony's commitment to cameras and photography appears to be about the same as
Honda Motor Company's commitment to lawnmowers and water pumps. Great engine, but....

This shouldn't surprise anyone. Sony's best known product remains the Walkman personal casette player,
eleased in 1979 -- within a year or two of when Nikon released the F3 and Canon released the New F-1.

Minolta was a truly innovative camera company that invented many milestones--including the first SRL
camera with integrated AF and motorized film advance (the Maxxum 7000). Sony isn't.

Sony was the Budweiser of home stereo equipment. It was not in the same category as McAdcom, NAD,
Conrad Johnson, Dynaco, Nakamichi,Audio Research or even Harmon-Kardon. It was (and is) consumer crud.

Don't expect a leopard to change its spots.
Sony is a giant company with huge resources. Howe... (show quote)


Cameras don’t take pictures, people do. Talented photographers take fantastic photos with Sony cameras.

How can you imagine that anyone would take your posts seriously?

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Jan 3, 2019 22:46:32   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
tdekany wrote:
The A77/A77 mark2 are not FF, but APSC.

Sony's A7, A7S, A7R, A7 II, A7S II, A7R II, A7 III, A7R III, A9, etc.

The thread is "Any Mirror-Less Enthusiasts Here" and these ARE mirrorless full frame cameras...

bwa

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Jan 3, 2019 23:21:58   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
bwana wrote:
Sony's A7, A7S, A7R, A7 II, A7S II, A7R II, A7 III, A7R III, A9, etc.

The thread is "Any Mirror-Less Enthusiasts Here" and these ARE mirrorless full frame cameras...

bwa


My apologies

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Jan 4, 2019 00:38:52   #
gwilliams6
 
Bipod wrote:
Sony is a giant company with huge resources. However, it's known for its mass-market consumer products.
And it only entered the high-end camera business in 2006, when it bought Konica Minolta's line of a-mount
digital cameras. Before that, it offered low-end cameras like the DSC series.
https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/CorporateInfo/History/sonyhistory-g.html

It's first act in acquiring the Minolta product line was to leave millions of a-mount Maxxum film camera owners
in the lurch.. Orphaned overnight.

It's contribution to the Alpha line was the SLT -- replacing the swinging mirror with a fixed partially-transmissive
mirror. Longer exposure. Low-resolution, low-contrast, battery-draining EVF. But heck, what matters is
cutting manufacturing costs!

Konica Minolta's Maxxum DSLRs use a partially transmissive mirror for the AF sensor and meter, but it
swung out of the way for the exposure. And they have large, sharp OVFs.

In 2009, Sony cancelled the two best cameras it ever made: the a850 and a900 DSLRs.
As welll as all it's other DSLRs.

Currently, Sony only makes one FF camera: the a99 II SLT. FF is not important--because image quality is
not important.---making money is important! APS-C sensor is cheaper than a FF sensor.

If Sony put its R&D into making better cameras, it could be a great camera company. But instead,
it puts its R&D into cutting costs and marketing products which do not advance the state of the art
and in fact are moving backward -- to smaller sensors, lower resolution, etc.

Unfortunately, Sony's commitment to cameras and photography appears to be about the same as
Honda Motor Company's commitment to lawnmowers and water pumps. Great engine, but....

This shouldn't surprise anyone. Sony's best known product remains the Walkman personal casette player,
eleased in 1979 -- within a year or two of when Nikon released the F3 and Canon released the New F-1.

Minolta was a truly innovative camera company that invented many milestones--including the first SRL
camera with integrated AF and motorized film advance (the Maxxum 7000). Sony isn't.

Sony was the Budweiser of home stereo equipment. It was not in the same category as McAdcom, NAD,
Conrad Johnson, Dynaco, Nakamichi,Audio Research or even Harmon-Kardon. It was (and is) consumer crud.

Don't expect a leopard to change its spots.
Sony is a giant company with huge resources. Howe... (show quote)


This is the same nonsense, ridiculous post you have made before, full of inaccuracies and falsehoods, just amazing.

Sony is World's #1 seller of Fullframe cameras, DSLRs or Mirrorless (not Nikon or Canon). Sony makes more than the ONE Fullframe camera you claim. Sony makes the fullframe A7, A7S, A7II, A7SII, A7III, A7RIII and A9, as well as A77, A99. Sony makes numerous APS-C cameras including A5100, A6000, A6300, A6500. The A6000 is the best selling mirrorless APS-C camera in the world. Sony makes top-rated compact and bridge cameras also. Sony is the world leader in image sensor technology and #1 image sensor manufacturer and makes sensors for cameras from Nikon, Fuji, Panasonic, Hassleblad , as well as millions of cellphones. Sony cameras (compact, APS-C and Fullframe) and Sony lenses just cleaned up with the DPReview's 2018 Best Photo Product Awards AND DPReviews 2018 Readers Choice Poll. The A7III claimed several 2018 Camera of the Year Awards.

Sony is set to announce a new APS-C flagship camera A7000, maybe by the end of this month. Sony will also announce a revolutionary new fullframe camera, the A7SIII by spring. Sony just today confirmed 12 new E-mount lenses to be released in 2019, bringing their total of E-mount lenses to 60.

Sony has publicly stated their corporate goal of being the World's overall #1 camera seller (compact, bridge, APS-C, Fullframe) by the end of 2020. They have the resources and the tech and the commitment to achieve their lofty goals, even in this competitive market.

Bipod you are totally all wet about the facts here. What planet are you living on ? Cheers

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