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Dec 18, 2018 07:24:53   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
If you've watched the news lately, you probably saw a bit about the controversy stirred up by the decorations on the Holland Tunnel in NY. A man was "upset" by the placement of the Christmas tree. As a result, a petition and a poll led to the removal on one wreath and the moving of a tree. I wonder if this will be made into a movie, "Another Christmas Miracle." Ridiculous.





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Dec 18, 2018 07:32:04   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
If you've watched the news lately, you probably saw a bit about the controversy stirred up by the decorations on the Holland Tunnel in NY. A man was "upset" by the placement of the Christmas tree. As a result, a petition and a poll led to the removal on one wreath and the moving of a tree. I wonder if this will be made into a movie, "Another Christmas Miracle." Ridiculous.

I just looked it up to see what you're referring to. From a purely aesthetic point of view the complaint was justified. The letter "A" has the same shape as the Christmas tree while the letter "N" does not. So, yes, a circular wreath on the letter "O" and a tree on "A." You've got a problem with that?

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Dec 18, 2018 07:36:16   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
If you've watched the news lately, you probably saw a bit about the controversy stirred up by the decorations on the Holland Tunnel in NY. A man was "upset" by the placement of the Christmas tree. As a result, a petition and a poll led to the removal on one wreath and the moving of a tree. I wonder if this will be made into a movie, "Another Christmas Miracle." Ridiculous.


Agree, IMHO if a change was to be made it should have been next year, waste of time and money to do it now, or let the PIA that complained pay for the change!, Eyes should be on the road not decorations anyway.

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Dec 18, 2018 08:06:17   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
It looks better the second try but jeez how important is it!!

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Dec 18, 2018 08:06:27   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
Repeat

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Dec 18, 2018 08:11:25   #
Stephan G
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
Agree, IMHO if a change was to be made it should have been next year, waste of time and money to do it now, or let the PIA that complained pay for the change!, Eyes should be on the road not decorations anyway.


However, one has to keep in mind that the name is an official directive sign identifying the entry to the tunnel. The placement over the N and the O can definitely confuse visitors to the area. I have had problems with signage when "modified" by decoration or spray paint. GPS and map do not help in congested traffic. The decorations could have been mounted above the letters to avoid confusion. I would say that the placement was done by someone who does not use the tunnel. (It is said that the traffic design engineers do not use the results of their efforts.)

Actually, even on a good day, the entry to the tunnel can be problematic if you are not in the proper lane at the tunnel.

Can we direct the damages to you when collisions occur due to the inability to read the sign at high traffic? Just asking.

Seriously, the change was necessary and timely to prevent potential accidents that could occur due to the inability to identify the sign.

(I've driven that stretch a few times when I visited NY/NJ.)

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Dec 18, 2018 08:15:13   #
DavidPhares Loc: Chandler, Arizona
 
And exactly how many folks approaching the entry to the Holland Tunnel do not know what it is? This complaint is just one more example of stupid people making an issue out of nothing!

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Dec 18, 2018 08:20:25   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
jerryc41 wrote:
If you've watched the news lately, you probably saw a bit about the controversy stirred up by the decorations on the Holland Tunnel in NY. A man was "upset" by the placement of the Christmas tree. As a result, a petition and a poll led to the removal on one wreath and the moving of a tree. I wonder if this will be made into a movie, "Another Christmas Miracle." Ridiculous.


Democrats at it again.
They hate America and Christians.

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Dec 18, 2018 08:22:02   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
DavidPhares wrote:
And exactly how many folks approaching the entry to the Holland Tunnel do not know what it is? This complaint is just one more example of stupid people making an issue out of nothing!



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Dec 18, 2018 08:26:20   #
02Nomad Loc: Catonsville, MD
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Democrats at it again.
They hate America and Christians.


I don't hate anyone until they truly deserve it. I am a Democrat only because Nixon was president when I registered to vote. I will, however, vote for the person that I feel to be most qualified. Oh, and thanks for making this political.

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Dec 18, 2018 08:44:05   #
FrankR Loc: NYC
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Democrats at it again.
They hate America and Christians.


A truly asinine comment.

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Dec 18, 2018 08:53:52   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
FrankR wrote:
A truly asinine comment.


Perhaps but 100% true.

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Dec 18, 2018 08:54:24   #
FrankR Loc: NYC
 
Stephan G wrote:
However, one has to keep in mind that the name is an official directive sign identifying the entry to the tunnel. The placement over the N and the O can definitely confuse visitors to the area. I have had problems with signage when "modified" by decoration or spray paint. GPS and map do not help in congested traffic. The decorations could have been mounted above the letters to avoid confusion. I would say that the placement was done by someone who does not use the tunnel. (It is said that the traffic design engineers do not use the results of their efforts.)

Actually, even on a good day, the entry to the tunnel can be problematic if you are not in the proper lane at the tunnel.

Can we direct the damages to you when collisions occur due to the inability to read the sign at high traffic? Just asking.

Seriously, the change was necessary and timely to prevent potential accidents that could occur due to the inability to identify the sign.

(I've driven that stretch a few times when I visited NY/NJ.)
However, one has to keep in mind that the name is ... (show quote)


If you’re at the NJ entrance to the Holland Tunnel (which is shown in the picture) and you can’t read the sign, or you’re unsure of your location because of some Christmas decorations, you’ve got more serious problems than the decorations.

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Dec 18, 2018 08:59:20   #
Stephan G
 
jerryc41 wrote:
If you've watched the news lately, you probably saw a bit about the controversy stirred up by the decorations on the Holland Tunnel in NY. A man was "upset" by the placement of the Christmas tree. As a result, a petition and a poll led to the removal on one wreath and the moving of a tree. I wonder if this will be made into a movie, "Another Christmas Miracle." Ridiculous.


Unfortunately, Jimmy Stewart has been long deceased. So we will have to find a good replacement somewhere.

Suggested sequel, the Miracle of the renamed tunnel by the Chinese. (Subtitled English)

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Dec 18, 2018 09:06:23   #
Stephan G
 
suntouched wrote:
It looks better the second try but jeez how important is it!!


To someone totally unfamiliar with the area, very important.

And a typical New Yorker is crossing against the light in the top picture.

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