Noise from Single Lens Reflex
Dec 9, 2018 10:33:22 #
bandman
Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
When I watch press conferences on t.v. I am very annoyed by the extreme noise created by the numerous SLR's. I own both a SLR and additional cameras with high megapixel capabilities. Is it possible for professional photographers to switch to a quiet camera and still get professional results? I know they are there to make a living but it is also a time when other modes of photography could use a quieter atmosphere to listen to what is being presented at these press conferences. I might also add, before someone else say it, ''sometimes we do not want to hear what is being reported".
Dec 9, 2018 10:44:24 #
I don't think we are past the point where "professional" press photographers can show up with something that doesn't say "Nikon" or "Canon" on the front. Only in the last few weeks have quiet (mirrorless) serious cameras been available from those two companies.
Dec 9, 2018 10:59:01 #
bandman wrote:
When I watch press conferences on t.v. I am very a... (show quote)
Yes they could. But they are making a living. The tool that has been getting the job done is the one they know and trust.
On the plus side, the sound coming from a bunch of cameras is music to my ears when compared to the noise that typically comes from the human speakers.
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Dec 9, 2018 11:51:56 #
Bill_de wrote:
So very true, right on.Yes they could. But they are making a living. The tool that has been getting the job done is the one they know and trust.
On the plus side, the sound coming from a bunch of cameras is music to my ears when compared to the noise that typically comes from the human speakers.
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On the plus side, the sound coming from a bunch of cameras is music to my ears when compared to the noise that typically comes from the human speakers.
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Dec 10, 2018 00:39:29 #
bandman wrote:
When I watch press conferences on t.v. I am very a... (show quote)
They could all switch to mirrorless because with the electronic shutter selected, there is no noise. Truly silent. But it's funny I had a little camera way back in the early days of digital, that had a silent mode. It came with that as the default. I did not like it. It threw my timing off as well as my subjects. So I turned the shutter sound on.
As for the news guys, they use the cameras the company gives them. Doubtful their companies are going to go out and buy new cameras, unless the folks hosting all the the press conferences force the issue. Which is not likely.
Dec 10, 2018 00:52:09 #
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My brother tells of when the presiding Justice
promptly banned his SLR and advised him to
return with "a Leica" ... which acoarst he did.
Problem solved.
BTW, he was the *ONLY* photographer in the
room, being on staff. Outside PJs not allowed
at all.
In ANY venue, ALL those SLRs can be banned
with no special procedure needed. One person
in authority can do it "at the drop of a hat". It
would not be a freedom of the press issue. No
press is being banned. Only their unnecessary
noise is banned.
Imagine if all those SLRs were triggered at
every back swing during PGA tours !
Anywho, despite all the stoopid polarized SLR
vs Live View arguments on these pages, the
PJ SLR noise problem will solve itself in about
a year or so, so why ruffle feathers ?
.
My brother tells of when the presiding Justice
promptly banned his SLR and advised him to
return with "a Leica" ... which acoarst he did.
Problem solved.
BTW, he was the *ONLY* photographer in the
room, being on staff. Outside PJs not allowed
at all.
In ANY venue, ALL those SLRs can be banned
with no special procedure needed. One person
in authority can do it "at the drop of a hat". It
would not be a freedom of the press issue. No
press is being banned. Only their unnecessary
noise is banned.
Imagine if all those SLRs were triggered at
every back swing during PGA tours !
Anywho, despite all the stoopid polarized SLR
vs Live View arguments on these pages, the
PJ SLR noise problem will solve itself in about
a year or so, so why ruffle feathers ?
.
Dec 10, 2018 00:53:36 #
I started a similar tread a few years ago.
Some interesting technical answers if you read responses:
Here: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-422624-1.html
Examples:
Some interesting technical answers if you read responses:
Here: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-422624-1.html
Examples:
burkphoto wrote:
Audio compression used in broadcasting squashes the range of loudness to just a few db, from a reality of 70-90 db. That makes ALL sounds abnormally loud. The compressor is what makes everything so noticeable in such scenes.
rook2c4 wrote:
Much of the annoying camera noise has less to do with the cameras, but with the use of aggressive audio waveform compression software, which makes everything sound louder. Very effective to add clarity to spoken words, but with the unfortunate side effect of making other nearby noises (such as camera shutter noise) sound louder too.
Dec 10, 2018 02:15:09 #
Pablo8
Loc: Nottingham UK.
Years ago there was a protocol when taking Golf Pro's at the Tee. "Don't shoot, till the 'Follow Through"' Any Pro' photographer who 'jumped the gun' would get black looks from fellow photographers, and possible verbals from the golfer.
Dec 10, 2018 03:55:16 #
bandman wrote:
When I watch press conferences on t.v. I am very a... (show quote)
Some SLRS and DSLRs are noisier than others.
If you really want a quiet shutter, there are many great cameras with leaf shutters--
the Leica rangefinder has already been mention. And. old large format press cameras
had leaf shutters.
The advantage of the SLR or DSLR is it's WYSIWYG. You don't have to worry about
parallax error cropping off the subject's head, or time lag in an EVF causing you to
miss the shot or running down the battery.
BTW, as for "megapixel capabiilty": a 4" x 5" Graflex Speed Graphic press camera
loaded with B&W print film has almost 15 times greater image area than a minature format
("full-frame" in marketing-speak) digital camera; also, the resolution of B&W film is
higher than that of a color diigtal sensor.
Don't know if the O.P. was fishing for a particular answer, but what matters is what works,
not what's new and fashionable.
Dec 10, 2018 06:08:28 #
bandman wrote:
When I watch press conferences on t.v. I am very a... (show quote)
You just have them ban the photographers. You only need the videographer. That's for people like you however there are people who want to see and hear the photographers.
Dec 10, 2018 06:14:41 #
w00dy4012
Loc: Thalia, East Virginia
I've noticed some reporters using smart phones.
Woody
Woody
bsprague wrote:
I don't think we are past the point where "professional" press photographers can show up with something that doesn't say "Nikon" or "Canon" on the front. Only in the last few weeks have quiet (mirrorless) serious cameras been available from those two companies.
Dec 10, 2018 06:16:17 #
bandman wrote:
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I suspect when you are willing to replace their inventory of lenses with similar lenses that will fit a pro-level MILC, they may switch, but only if you throw in the bodies of their choice as well. They are in business to make money. Replacing a whole kit of gear for no good reason is not a sound fiscal decision.
Dec 10, 2018 06:19:16 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
bandman wrote:
When I watch press conferences on t.v. I am very a... (show quote)
Why not write a letter to the those responsible for organizing press conferences (yes, there is a staff who does this, just look them up). I am sure no one on this staff read UHH.
So, instead of a useless post here, put on your big boy pants and get involved and call and write letters. I want your next post to inform us how your movement to a quite press conference is going.
Or better yet, organize a "go fund me page" so that you can outfit all of those photographers with old Leica Film camera's or the new Sony A9 (which has a silent mode). Many newer digital camera's have a silent mode.
Actually, I kinda like the noise.
Dec 10, 2018 06:25:07 #
Bill_de wrote:
Yes they could. But they are making a living. The tool that has been getting the job done is the one they know and trust.
On the plus side, the sound coming from a bunch of cameras is music to my ears when compared to the noise that typically comes from the human speakers.
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On the plus side, the sound coming from a bunch of cameras is music to my ears when compared to the noise that typically comes from the human speakers.
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Dec 10, 2018 06:26:59 #
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