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Dec 8, 2018 00:20:51   #
SENSORLOUPE
 
From tonite's game. They didn't win, but they played a good game. I caught some of the action, but still not in focus. Choosing the correct focus cluster in a problem!! I did get the legs in this batch!! ha!!


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Dec 8, 2018 07:51:23   #
Tom DePuy Loc: Waxhaw, N.C.
 
SENSORLOUPE wrote:
From tonite's game. They didn't win, but they played a good game. I caught some of the action, but still not in focus. Choosing the correct focus cluster in a problem!! I did get the legs in this batch!! ha!!


These in my opinion are actually rather nice,
Looks as though the gym you were shooting in may have actually had some decent lighting.
For me though I think on some of these I would do some cropping to bring the veiwer in closer to the action.
Overall though I think these are pretty well done...

Tom

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Dec 8, 2018 08:30:07   #
SENSORLOUPE
 
Tom DePuy wrote:
These in my opinion are actually rather nice,
Looks as though the gym you were shooting in may have actually had some decent lighting.
For me though I think on some of these I would do some cropping to bring the veiwer in closer to the action.
Overall though I think these are pretty well done...

Tom


Thank you Tom. White balance is on auto. Yes I could crop. Used the 85m for these. Focus points bother me tho. Thank you so much

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Dec 8, 2018 10:23:18   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
Hi

Agree - I like these better. Great interaction between the players

Not tight enough, but, as commented earlier, the 85 is probably quite long enough. To bad your Tamron 100 you feel is slow (I wouldn’t be able to comment), as that extra reach would help, and I prefer not to crop to fill the frame in PP as just throwing pixels away.

As for the focus group, for me personally I found that I had more luck with AFC-Single than any of the groupings. In tracking moving subjects (and in particular BB) with the focus point set 1 point below dead center and then going at their chests gave me best results. When I was even on a smaller focus group (e.g. D9), I found it was averaging well - and putting everything a bit out of focus. That said, I am still a learning amateur and that could just be me.

One other question - are you using continuous focus with BBF and taking focus of the shutter release? If not, try that, that even in the AF time on focus-on-half-shutter-press, the subjects are moving and can throw off focus

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Dec 8, 2018 14:23:54   #
SENSORLOUPE
 
david vt wrote:
Hi

Agree - I like these better. Great interaction between the players

Not tight enough, but, as commented earlier, the 85 is probably quite long enough. To bad your Tamron 100 you feel is slow (I wouldn’t be able to comment), as that extra reach would help, and I prefer not to crop to fill the frame in PP as just throwing pixels away.

As for the focus group, for me personally I found that I had more luck with AFC-Single than any of the groupings. In tracking moving subjects (and in particular BB) with the focus point set 1 point below dead center and then going at their chests gave me best results. When I was even on a smaller focus group (e.g. D9), I found it was averaging well - and putting everything a bit out of focus. That said, I am still a learning amateur and that could just be me.

One other question - are you using continuous focus with BBF and taking focus of the shutter release? If not, try that, that even in the AF time on focus-on-half-shutter-press, the subjects are moving and can throw off focus
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Thank you David. Did I say Tamron 100? It is a Tokina 100m. I just read that it is too slow for BB. Guess I should try it. Are you saying single point focus? No clusters? I am not using Back B focus. Altho there is a button on the back that will focus. But I did not set for BBF. I'm a Canon using 7D Mark 11. I'm use to shooting stills and Portraits, but I want to master (maybe) sports. A good sports lens is what I need, but that will never happen!! Ha!!

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Dec 8, 2018 17:20:22   #
SENSORLOUPE
 
david vt wrote:
Hi

Agree - I like these better. Great interaction between the players

Not tight enough, but, as commented earlier, the 85 is probably quite long enough. To bad your Tamron 100 you feel is slow (I wouldn’t be able to comment), as that extra reach would help, and I prefer not to crop to fill the frame in PP as just throwing pixels away.

As for the focus group, for me personally I found that I had more luck with AFC-Single than any of the groupings. In tracking moving subjects (and in particular BB) with the focus point set 1 point below dead center and then going at their chests gave me best results. When I was even on a smaller focus group (e.g. D9), I found it was averaging well - and putting everything a bit out of focus. That said, I am still a learning amateur and that could just be me.

One other question - are you using continuous focus with BBF and taking focus of the shutter release? If not, try that, that even in the AF time on focus-on-half-shutter-press, the subjects are moving and can throw off focus
Hi br br Agree - I like these better. Great inte... (show quote)
Did some cropping. 1-2-3 are in sequence and 5-6 are in sequence

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Dec 8, 2018 17:25:14   #
Tom DePuy Loc: Waxhaw, N.C.
 
SENSORLOUPE wrote:
Did some cropping. 1-2-3 are in sequence and 5-6 are in sequence



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Dec 8, 2018 20:02:41   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
@sensorloupe

RE: cropping - I like these tighter shots better, but note, low and behold, most became verital

RE: Focusing. Yes, I use only single point with AFC. While rairly are two players quite at the same focus, I should very shallow DoF so better to “paint” one with a single point on their chest and at least they are in focus. On BBF, I don’t know anything about Canons (sure another UHH can pipe in here), but suspect your Canon can do BBF. I find it easier to do this, with my thumb mashed for BBF on all the time, then to try to keep the shutter half pressed. I can also, say for a jump ball, set the focus in advance on one player and then recompose. With the AFC activated on via BBF, the lens is always seeking and tracking and, at least for me, this helped a lot in my sports shoots. Your mileage may vary....

Good luck and keep shooting.

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Dec 8, 2018 20:02:49   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
@sensorloupe

RE: cropping - I like these tighter shots better, but note, low and behold, most became vertical

RE: Focusing. Yes, I use only single point with AFC. While rairly are two players quite at the same focus, I should very shallow DoF so better to “paint” one with a single point on their chest and at least they are in focus. On BBF, I don’t know anything about Canons (sure another UHH can pipe in here), but suspect your Canon can do BBF. I find it easier to do this, with my thumb mashed for BBF on all the time, then to try to keep the shutter half pressed. I can also, say for a jump ball, set the focus in advance on one player and then recompose. With the AFC activated on via BBF, the lens is always seeking and tracking and, at least for me, this helped a lot in my sports shoots. Your mileage may vary....

Good luck and keep shooting.

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Dec 9, 2018 08:03:48   #
Dannj
 
Thanks for sharing. Good form and follow thru on the jump shot. Girls basketball has come along way!

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Dec 9, 2018 08:50:46   #
SENSORLOUPE
 
Tom DePuy wrote:


thanks Tom for the

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Dec 9, 2018 08:52:14   #
SENSORLOUPE
 
Dannj wrote:
Thanks for sharing. Good form and follow thru on the jump shot. Girls basketball has come along way!


Thank you Dannj for commenting

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Dec 9, 2018 09:30:59   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
SENSORLOUPE wrote:
Did some cropping. 1-2-3 are in sequence and 5-6 are in sequence


Nice job

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Dec 9, 2018 17:26:37   #
tshift Loc: Overland Park, KS.
 
SENSORLOUPE wrote:
From tonite's game. They didn't win, but they played a good game. I caught some of the action, but still not in focus. Choosing the correct focus cluster in a problem!! I did get the legs in this batch!! ha!!


Here are some I just shot the other day! Jules gave me advise which I am going to shoot a couple more games tomorrow to try out! What do the rest of you think.

Tom


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Dec 9, 2018 17:32:53   #
tshift Loc: Overland Park, KS.
 
SENSORLOUPE wrote:
From tonite's game. They didn't win, but they played a good game. I caught some of the action, but still not in focus. Choosing the correct focus cluster in a problem!! I did get the legs in this batch!! ha!!


OH yea. these were shot at 1/1000, f.2.8, ISO 1250,1600,2000,2500. All have noise!

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