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Dec 7, 2018 10:39:20   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
https://www.pewtrusts.org/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2018/12/04/the-little-town-that-pot-built

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Dec 7, 2018 14:25:38   #
le boecere
 
dirtpusher wrote:
https://www.pewtrusts.org/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2018/12/04/the-little-town-that-pot-built


Money does have a way of changing the views, opinions, and...the votes of the masses, does it not?

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Dec 7, 2018 19:08:03   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Seems as. an it works

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Dec 8, 2018 04:27:19   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
It's too bad that it takes the mighty dollar to get government officials to do the right thing and make pot legal but if that's what it takes...fine with me.

The history of Cannabis is all about the government making this innocuous plant seem evil.

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Dec 8, 2018 06:11:43   #
exakta56 Loc: Orford,New Hampshire
 
Not so much the government initially, the tobacco and booze industries did not want the competition and lobbied the govt to outlaw it in the 30's. Sibling rivalry of a sort.

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Dec 8, 2018 07:12:31   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
exakta56 wrote:
Not so much the government initially, the tobacco and booze industries did not want the competition and lobbied the govt to outlaw it in the 30's. Sibling rivalry of a sort.


Looks like it wasn't. The pharm companies were putting it in their products; it was a combination of the government and Hurst helping to demonize it. The states started following suit soon after.

It's got a really complicated history, that's for sure.


It's insane that it's still controlled and classified as a Schedule 1...it's clearly not that but since the DEA won't change it...for now we are stuck.

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Dec 8, 2018 08:14:33   #
ad9mac
 
I don't want to be driving with stoned fellow drivers around any more than drunk ones.
Police can stop a suspected drunk driver, have him/her blow into a breathalyzer and get a quantitative
analysis as to the amount of impairment .
Not so with marijuana.
Pot will screw you up as much as alcohol will. You may be happy 'drunk' but you're still impaired.

Legalizing pot is all about money, another pot of gold for the government. And I doing so disregarding
the safety of the public.

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Dec 8, 2018 08:39:07   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
ad9mac wrote:
I don't want to be driving with stoned fellow drivers around any more than drunk ones.


Newsflash, you already are and didn’t know it because they are safe drivers

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Police can stop a suspected drunk driver, have him/her blow into a breathalyzer and get a quantitative
analysis as to the amount of impairment .
Not so with marijuana.


True


Quote:
Pot will screw you up as much as alcohol will. You may be happy 'drunk' but you're still impaired.


If the context is driving then no, your wrong.


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Legalizing pot is all about money, another pot of gold for the government. And I doing so disregarding
the safety of the public.

Wrong again.

It COULD be a motivation, but it doesnt have to be, the motivation can be as simple as fixing the broken system that made it illegal in the first place.

You talk like you’ve never used any nor know anyone who does but have only bought into the “reffer madness” propaganda machine’s bunk

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Dec 8, 2018 09:05:50   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
ad9mac wrote:
I don't want to be driving with stoned fellow drivers around any more than drunk ones.
Police can stop a suspected drunk driver, have him/her blow into a breathalyzer and get a quantitative
analysis as to the amount of impairment .
Not so with marijuana.
Pot will screw you up as much as alcohol will. You may be happy 'drunk' but you're still impaired.

Legalizing pot is all about money, another pot of gold for the government. And I doing so disregarding
the safety of the public.
I don't want to be driving with stoned fellow driv... (show quote)


Now they do have. They can check on the spot if your stoned.

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Dec 8, 2018 09:10:48   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
rpavich wrote:
Wrong again.

It COULD be a motivation, but it doesnt have to be, the motivation can be as simple as fixing the broken system that made it illegal in the first place.

You talk like you’ve never used any nor know anyone who does but have only bought into the “reffer madness” propaganda machine’s bunk




There are many many still play the reffer madness card

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Dec 8, 2018 09:20:18   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
rpavich wrote:
It's too bad that it takes the mighty dollar to get government officials to do the right thing and make pot legal but if that's what it takes...fine with me.

The history of Cannabis is all about the government making this innocuous plant seem evil.


The research regarding continued daily use also had an impact.

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Dec 8, 2018 09:55:16   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
traderjohn wrote:
The research regarding continued daily use also had an impact.


An what was this findings.

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Dec 8, 2018 10:01:02   #
ad9mac
 
Ba...loney.
It's MONEY to the State driving this. Yes, I know I drive around stoned drivers, same as drunk.
Pot distorts your sense of time, sit at a traffic light long after its changed. Delay applying brakes coming up on a line of stopped traffic. Just to name a few
problems. Driving 20 mph when the speed limit is 45 or so.
and this from Healthline..

Health News
Why It’s Difficult to Develop a Roadside Test for Marijuana

Police in Colorado and California are using tests to see if drivers are high on marijuana. But more exact testing is needed as more states legalize the drug.
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As marijuana becomes more available to Californians and additional efforts to legalize it move forward in other states, law enforcement may face a challenge in identifying drivers who are high.

Alcohol is simple. A higher concentration in the bloodstream means more impairment and a higher likelihood of accidents.

But the level of intoxication associated with a given THC blood concentration depends on many variables — how marijuana’s ingested, whether someone is a regular user, the level of THC in the dose, and whether they’ve ingested other drugs or alcohol.

That makes it infeasible to set a single blood alcohol content (BAC) level as is set for alcohol, according to a new research paper.

And, the paper says, because THC can spike and leave the bloodstream in less than three hours — despite impairment potentially lasting six to eight hours — a blood test taken an hour or more after a traffic stop may fail to identify impairment due to marijuana use.

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Dec 8, 2018 10:13:48   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
ad9mac wrote:
Ba...loney.
It's MONEY to the State driving this. Yes, I know I drive around stoned drivers, same as drunk.
Pot distorts your sense of time, sit at a traffic light long after its changed. Delay applying brakes coming up on a line of stopped traffic. Just to name a few
problems. Driving 20 mph when the speed limit is 45 or so.
and this from Healthline..

Health News
Why It’s Difficult to Develop a Roadside Test for Marijuana

Police in Colorado and California are using tests to see if drivers are high on marijuana. But more exact testing is needed as more states legalize the drug.
Share on Pinterest

As marijuana becomes more available to Californians and additional efforts to legalize it move forward in other states, law enforcement may face a challenge in identifying drivers who are high.

Alcohol is simple. A higher concentration in the bloodstream means more impairment and a higher likelihood of accidents.

But the level of intoxication associated with a given THC blood concentration depends on many variables — how marijuana’s ingested, whether someone is a regular user, the level of THC in the dose, and whether they’ve ingested other drugs or alcohol.

That makes it infeasible to set a single blood alcohol content (BAC) level as is set for alcohol, according to a new research paper.

And, the paper says, because THC can spike and leave the bloodstream in less than three hours — despite impairment potentially lasting six to eight hours — a blood test taken an hour or more after a traffic stop may fail to identify impairment due to marijuana use.
Ba...loney. br It's MONEY to the State driving thi... (show quote)



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Dec 8, 2018 10:15:11   #
Ollieboy
 
Bottom line. Drivers who are under the influence of pot cannot be tested for it while driving. There is currently no test that law enforcement can use. However there is a private company working on it now.

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