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Dec 5, 2018 07:10:31   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
burkphoto wrote:
A few things to consider:

Usage rights: Personal use for social media, Personal use for printing, Business one time use (or scope limited use), Business time-limited usage, Business unlimited usage

Resolution: Social Media scale vs. Sized for specific print sizes vs. Full Size

Your time: hourly or day rate plus expenses

Distribution cost: CD? USB flash drive? Email? Text message? Web post?

I would highly advise against giving away any digital files. I would highly advise against selling any raw files. Finished, processed, retouched, color-adjusted images should be JPEGs in sRGB color space.

The hardest thing to do is to separate the VALUE of your work from physical entities (i.e.; prints). Your photography time, post-processing time, equipment costs, and risk of failure all come into play. In a business, you would have to add overhead — taxes, power, Internet, phone, rent, hardware and software, insurance, wages/salaries/benefits, marketing, PPA dues, transportation, etc. etc.

In an age when smartphones are in most folks' pockets or purses, it's imperative that you put a respectable price on your work, especially when a digital file is all a client wants.

When it comes right down to it, I charge $10 for social media scale images (1024 pixels on the long side). I charge $25 for a formatted layout of different sized images, ready to print on 8x10 (3000 pixels on the long side). I charge $20 for a "1-up" full size, properly finished, ready to print image. Prices should include conversion from raw files, pose editing, color adjustment, cropping, retouching, and any other embellishment.

Those prices are for family usage only. I don't charge for a one-off favor for a family member here and there. But in your case, with 100+ folks, I would hope no one expects free images! You were working.
A few things to consider: br br Usage rights: Per... (show quote)


Isn't it nice when someone actually answers the question, rather than telling the OP to do things differently?

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Dec 5, 2018 07:28:46   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
For family I charge double! Just kidding. Free of course. Bob said it well- "What this collective group adds to my life is far more valuable".

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Dec 5, 2018 07:35:18   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
I think whether or not family work is free depends on several things. How much did it cost you? Would/do they reciprocate in kind. For example, I have a cousin who restores old houses. I asked him to give me a quote on my house. It certainly wasn't free! Granted, that's a LOT of money and supplying digital images isn't very much cost to you.

If they are willing to pay you, they obviously they value your work. Why shouldn't you?

I do give a "family discount" and that extends to friends also. But I normally only give my work for free to charities.

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Dec 5, 2018 07:36:42   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Isn't it nice when someone actually answers the question, rather than telling the OP to do things differently?


Something to keep in mind.

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Dec 5, 2018 07:37:52   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
dennis2146 wrote:
If these pictures are for family then why not put the photos on a disc and give them to family members? Sorry but from reading your post these people are family. IF you were in a studio and IF you were/are a professional photographer who does this type of photography for money, then I could see charging them your standard fee. But if these are just photos you took at your family get together then I don't understand why the charge. Perhaps I am missing something here.

Dennis



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Dec 5, 2018 07:43:18   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I don't ever charge family.
I'm usually not certain they even want them.


Yeah. I never break down family into copyright infringement, signed releases or any of the other BS some people think are more important than family. I'm sure they would want to have some of the pictures.

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Dec 5, 2018 07:57:17   #
chippy65 Loc: Cambridge
 
printing should be free ! What did the "modelling fee"cost ?

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Dec 5, 2018 08:05:55   #
rond-photography Loc: Connecticut
 
I agree - family, no charge for the digitals (you gave the prints at cost, why not the digital?). You can email or load on a free DropBox account for no money. If you need to for some reason use thumb drives or DVD's, and it is not in your budget, then maybe get some money for those materials.

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Dec 5, 2018 08:23:27   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Giving out a handful if prints is one thing, hundreds would be another.
At least enough to re-coop the costs of a major distribution.
Digital copy? For family, probably nothing as little costs are involved with sending.

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Dec 5, 2018 08:25:04   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
lovelylyn wrote:
I took pictures at our family thanksgiving for those wanting family or individual Christmas pictures. (They turned out great). I didn’t charge a sitting fee just the price of any prints they order. Some have asked to purchase digital copies. I’ve never sold digital files before so not sure what to charge. What is the going rate?


Well so far I count only one answer to your question. I don't see any problem with charging family in the situation you described. These were not just some snapshots. Forty years ago, my Dad was a part time wedding photgrapher and did several family weddings. He charged, but offered a 20% discount off his already too low rates. Of course, film and processing has a tangible hard cost.

I have a large family on my wife's side. 8 brother-sister-in-laws + spouses. 25 nieces=nephews + 19 spouses. about 30+ great nieces=nephews. and my own child plus 3 grands and Mother/father in-law. My last count, we had 78 people at our Christmas gathering, from infant to 91, in one madhouse! Thankfully, we have a mild winter and can spill into the outside patio and backyard.
If I had to set up and do family photos for formal pictures, that's hours of work taking away from my.... ahem, "enjoyment" of the occasion and yes, I would dang sure charge.

So here is my suggestion: browse the web sites of some wedding photogs or professionals in your area and see what they charge. Several have packages for prints and a discount or fee for digital only. Charge the same proportional discount to your stated fee for prints. You're saving them money from not hiring a full time pro to do the family shoots. Also, you're putting in a lot of your time and losing money either way.

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Dec 5, 2018 08:29:04   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
You did not charge them a sitting fee? Did they charge you a model fee? If not I guess you break even. It's family, be the family hero and do it free or at cost.

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Dec 5, 2018 08:42:12   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
lovelylyn wrote:
I took pictures at our family thanksgiving for those wanting family or individual Christmas pictures. (They turned out great). I didn’t charge a sitting fee just the price of any prints they order. Some have asked to purchase digital copies. I’ve never sold digital files before so not sure what to charge. What is the going rate?


Why don't you give them the digital copies and let them order their own prints. If you are looking to make money out of your family, charge them for the dinner instead.

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Dec 5, 2018 08:45:30   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
AzPicLady wrote:
I think whether or not family work is free depends on several things. How much did it cost you? Would/do they reciprocate in kind. For example, I have a cousin who restores old houses. I asked him to give me a quote on my house. It certainly wasn't free! Granted, that's a LOT of money and supplying digital images isn't very much cost to you.

If they are willing to pay you, they obviously they value your work. Why shouldn't you?

I do give a "family discount" and that extends to friends also. But I normally only give my work for free to charities.
I think whether or not family work is free depends... (show quote)


I think the OP is going beyond what most of us think of as taking some photos during a family event. He seems to be setting up a mini studio and, ultimately, missing out on a good chunk of the family event itself. While I personally would not do this for family dynamic reasons, once this choice is made, I think charging to recover costs and time is reasonable.

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Dec 5, 2018 08:52:41   #
Al Freeedman
 
Have never charged family members for prints disc's etc. But have in several cases received a thank you note and a gift card
in appreciation. That being said, thank you is not in the younger generation's vocabulary. Don't expect it and you won't be
disappointed. Again, free for family.

Captain Al

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Dec 5, 2018 08:56:25   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
rmalarz wrote:
My rates for family is free. Very close friends just have to cover the cost of printing. What this collective group adds to my life is far more valuable.
--Bob



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