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Dec 1, 2018 11:28:03   #
jptonks
 
Hello all,

I have decided that a Nikon 850 is too expensive for my budget and have settled onto purchasing either the Nikon D750 or the Nikon Z6. I am upgrading from 9 years with a D90 to a full-frame format. I have no interest in video and mostly want to obtain tack sharp landscape photos (camera+lens+technique).

My thoughts are as follows. Does the use of a lens adapter on the Z6 degrade image quality?

Built in flash on the D750 could be helpful for occasional indoor family pictures. Extra expense to add flash to Z6.

D750 doesn't have a built in image stabilization as does the Z6, which would limit the lens selection to those with VR on the D750. Lens selection would be the same quality with either camera.

Currently, the D750 comes with a battery pack that would probably allow for easier vertical shots.

D750 control layout is more traditional than on the Z6. Less of a learning curve with the D750.

D750 is a bit less expensive, but it is four years old. Z6 is brand new and is most likely to receive a great deal of Nikon's research attention and budget in the future.

I guess what I am asking is would today's UHH Nikon D750 users, if they were buying a camera today, still choose the D750 or would they buy a Z6?

Thanks for your help.

John T.

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Dec 1, 2018 11:42:14   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Based on your criteria and the answers you got in your last thread I'd say get the D750.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-564272-3.html

You said:
"I am primarily a landscape (80%), car show(15%), air show (5%) shooter. My primary goals with this purchase are superb image quality and outstanding auto focus that ultimately produce tack sharp images. I am working on the tack sharp part with practice, local college classes, tripod, reading, talking, Internet, UHH, etc..

I never had a D750, but I do own the D850 and a Z6. The Z6 is fun, but I don't think it is ready to be a primary camera. The Z6 does not have outstanding auto focus.

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Dec 1, 2018 11:42:33   #
cedymock Loc: Irmo, South Carolina
 
For Nikon Z cameras only a couple of lenses without adapter currently, I have been very pleased with the D 750 that I have had for almost 3 years.
Think you should hold these cameras in your hand before purchasing and feel what is good for you.

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Dec 1, 2018 11:51:49   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
jptonks wrote:
Hello all,

I have decided that a Nikon 850 is too expensive for my budget and have settled onto purchasing either the Nikon D750 or the Nikon Z6. I am upgrading from 9 years with a D90 to a full-frame format. I have no interest in video and mostly want to obtain tack sharp landscape photos (camera+lens+technique).

My thoughts are as follows. Does the use of a lens adapter on the Z6 degrade image quality?

Built in flash on the D750 could be helpful for occasional indoor family pictures. Extra expense to add flash to Z6.

D750 doesn't have a built in image stabilization as does the Z6, which would limit the lens selection to those with VR on the D750. Lens selection would be the same quality with either camera.

Currently, the D750 comes with a battery pack that would probably allow for easier vertical shots.

D750 control layout is more traditional than on the Z6. Less of a learning curve with the D750.

D750 is a bit less expensive, but it is four years old. Z6 is brand new and is most likely to receive a great deal of Nikon's research attention and budget in the future.

I guess what I am asking is would today's UHH Nikon D750 users, if they were buying a camera today, still choose the D750 or would they buy a Z6?

Thanks for your help.

John T.
Hello all, br br I have decided that a Nikon 850 ... (show quote)

How do you use and plan to use your camera? The Z6 has been described to me as "most of a D750." But it has a lot of benefits for those who shoot video. It appears to me that the user interfaces are very similar betweeen the two cameras.

I will tell you that when Nikon replaced the D810 with the D850, a pretty big chunk of design focus shifted toward supporting video capability. In my opinion, when that was done, it led to some less than optimal choices for those of us concentrating on still photography. It is likely that at least some of the same thing may have happened between the D750 and the Z6. So my advice is to compare them in person, looking carefully, taking your time, and thinking about how you plan to use whatever you buy.

And let us know what you decide.

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Dec 1, 2018 13:22:01   #
BebuLamar
 
Unless you find the EVF is a great thing you're better off with the D750. The D750 is much older so I suspect the image quality you get out of the D750 may not be as good as the Z6 but I don't think by a whole lot. Mirrorless has advantages when it comes to video but you don't need video. You don't have an all around lens for the FX format. You have the 70-300mm but that's too long for normal uses. So you need a lens and the D750 with the 24-120mm package deal is a lot less expensive than the equivalent with the Z6.

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Dec 1, 2018 13:43:10   #
Mark Bski Loc: A sleepy little island not far from Seattle
 
I'm shopping the same two cameras right now. If it were just a matter of features, I would choose the Z6 in a heartbeat. What makes the choice difficult is the Z6 kit I want is twice the price if the D750.

$1400 vs $2800+

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Dec 2, 2018 07:35:21   #
CO
 
I'm currently renting the Nikon Z6 from LensRentals for one week. I may extend that rental so I can test it out more. I'm very impressed with the image quality. I've been taking photos of the same subjects with that camera and my D500. I've been using my SB700 flash on both cameras,The image quality and sharpness of the Z6 and D500 look to be equal.

I did similar testing with my D500 and a D750 some time ago. The images from the D500 were clearly sharper than the images from the D750. That may be because the D500 has no anti-aliasing filter while the D750 has an AA filter. The D750 had slightly lower digital noise at very high ISO settings.

One thing that I'm noticing is that the D500 has better autofocus in dim light. The Z6 will often hunt to acquire focus in dim light. In the same light, the D500 acquires focus right away.

I would choose the Z6 over the D750.

Top image Z6. Bottom image D500
Top image Z6. Bottom image D500...
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Left image Z6. Right image D500
Left image Z6. Right image D500...
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Dec 2, 2018 07:47:19   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
jptonks wrote:
Hello all,

I have decided that a Nikon 850 is too expensive for my budget and have settled onto purchasing either the Nikon D750 or the Nikon Z6. I am upgrading from 9 years with a D90 to a full-frame format. I have no interest in video and mostly want to obtain tack sharp landscape photos (camera+lens+technique).

My thoughts are as follows. Does the use of a lens adapter on the Z6 degrade image quality?

Built in flash on the D750 could be helpful for occasional indoor family pictures. Extra expense to add flash to Z6.

D750 doesn't have a built in image stabilization as does the Z6, which would limit the lens selection to those with VR on the D750. Lens selection would be the same quality with either camera.

Currently, the D750 comes with a battery pack that would probably allow for easier vertical shots.

D750 control layout is more traditional than on the Z6. Less of a learning curve with the D750.

D750 is a bit less expensive, but it is four years old. Z6 is brand new and is most likely to receive a great deal of Nikon's research attention and budget in the future.

I guess what I am asking is would today's UHH Nikon D750 users, if they were buying a camera today, still choose the D750 or would they buy a Z6?

Thanks for your help.

John T.
Hello all, br br I have decided that a Nikon 850 ... (show quote)


get the D750 and a lens with image stabilization and be happy.

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Dec 2, 2018 07:59:28   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CO wrote:
I'm currently renting the Nikon Z6 from LensRentals for one week. I may extend that rental so I can test it out more. I'm very impressed with the image quality. I've been taking photos of the same subjects with that camera and my D500. I've been using my SB700 flash on both cameras,The image quality and sharpness of the Z6 and D500 look to be equal.

I did similar testing with my D500 and a D750 some time ago. The images from the D500 were clearly sharper than the images from the D750. That may be because the D500 has no anti-aliasing filter while the D750 has an AA filter. The D750 had slightly lower digital noise at very high ISO settings.

One thing that I'm noticing is that the D500 has better autofocus in dim light. The Z6 will often hunt to acquire focus in dim light. In the same light, the D500 acquires focus right away.

I would choose the Z6 over the D750.
I'm currently renting the Nikon Z6 from LensRental... (show quote)


Remember the Z6 has the AA filter so obviously the AA filter has NO effect upon the final image vs the 500D.

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Dec 2, 2018 08:04:44   #
CO
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Remember the Z6 has the AA filter so obviously the AA filter has NO effect upon the final image vs the 500D.


You're right. I'm noticing that the AA filter in the Z6 does not seem to soften the image as seen in previous Nikon cameras that have an AA filter. Maybe Nikon is doing some in-camera sharpening to reverse the blurring effects of the AA filter. It could be a better algorithm than what's been used previously.

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Dec 2, 2018 08:06:15   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
CO wrote:
I'm currently renting the Nikon Z6 from LensRentals for one week. I may extend that rental so I can test it out more. I'm very impressed with the image quality. I've been taking photos of the same subjects with that camera and my D500. I've been using my SB700 flash on both cameras,The image quality and sharpness of the Z6 and D500 look to be equal.

I did similar testing with my D500 and a D750 some time ago. The images from the D500 were clearly sharper than the images from the D750. That may be because the D500 has no anti-aliasing filter while the D750 has an AA filter. The D750 had slightly lower digital noise at very high ISO settings.

One thing that I'm noticing is that the D500 has better autofocus in dim light. The Z6 will often hunt to acquire focus in dim light. In the same light, the D500 acquires focus right away.

I would choose the Z6 over the D750.
I'm currently renting the Nikon Z6 from LensRental... (show quote)


Have you tried custom setting A11? (low light auto focus)

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Dec 2, 2018 08:17:51   #
CO
 
Bill_de wrote:
Have you tried custom setting A11? (low light auto focus)

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I haven't tried setting A11 yet. I'll try that out in the same light conditions where the Z6 hunted for focus.

I'm trying to completely understand when the camera is using its mechanical shutter and when it's using its electronic shutter. The way I understand it is that the camera is using the mechanical shutter is setting d5 is disabled and is using electronic shutter is d5 is enabled. I know that the fastest shutter speed is 1/2000 second when electronic shutter is used. If a shutter speed of 1/2000 to 1/8000 second is needed, option d5 must be disabled. Do you have a Z6? Is that what is happening?



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Dec 2, 2018 08:29:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Tough choice, but I love my D750. The Z6 is new, and it hasn't gotten 100% positive reviews - just like every other camera ever made. What you have to do is decide if you want to switch to mirrorless, learn a new system, and buy new lenses. There was a comparison between the D750 and Z6. I'll see if I can find it.

https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/preview/nikon-z6-vs-d750/

Comparison sites -
(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu

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Dec 2, 2018 08:32:35   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CO wrote:
You're right. I'm noticing that the AA filter in the Z6 does not seem to soften the image as seen in previous Nikon cameras that have an AA filter. Maybe Nikon is doing some in-camera sharpening to reverse the blurring effects of the AA filter. It could be a better algorithm than what's been used previously.



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Dec 2, 2018 08:38:19   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
Tough one. I will say there’s a lot to be said for in-camera stabilization. I currently have an Olympus with in-body stabilization and find I rarely need my tripod. With the adapter, you’ll have wider lens choice as well.

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