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Nov 21, 2018 09:45:24   #
JimBart Loc: Western Michigan
 
Food for thought for each of us. Yes this is photography related.

This is one reason I question my decision to remain a part of UHH. Practically every single thread or post always end up in a rant or a mess of remarks totally unrelated to the subject at hand. Each person thinking they are better than the previous poster. I thought this forum was meant to be constructive and helpful.

All I see is bickering, running down this person or that, condemning the poster for some unforeseen or unrelated thing, and playing favorites when posting a pic.

Why cant each of us act civil, answer the specific question at hand and overlook the inaccuracies and inadequacies if the individual. We are not all perfect as some believe they are, some of us may have special needs and use photography as a release of the pressures of life, or we are getting older and may be early dementia. We are only looking for help.

Isn't it about time to get on with the purpose of this forum....to give advice and do it constructively?

Admin, please repost the guidelines of this group. If you cant live with them please leave and let the rest of us help each other.

I've had enough of this garbage lately.

If you cant response to the question, picture or topic and do it constructively....don't do it at all.

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Nov 21, 2018 09:48:37   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 

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Nov 21, 2018 09:51:13   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Jim, perhaps a few examples, or links, would be helpful in pointing out your specific concerns. For example, if you wandered into The Attic, that is a seemingly natural atmosphere there. Otherwise, there are some difference of opinions expressed in some threads. That would seem normal.
--Bob

JimBart wrote:
Food for thought for each of us. Yes this is photography related.

This is one reason I question my decision to remain a part of UHH. Practically every single thread or post always end up in a rant or a mess of remarks totally unrelated to the subject at hand. Each person thinking they are better than the previous poster. I thought this forum was meant to be constructive and helpful.

All I see is bickering, running down this person or that, condemning the poster for some unforeseen or unrelated thing, and playing favorites when posting a pic.

Why cant each of us act civil, answer the specific question at hand and overlook the inaccuracies and inadequacies if the individual. We are not all perfect as some believe they are, some of us may have special needs and use photography as a release of the pressures of life, or we are getting older and may be early dementia. We are only looking for help.

Isn't it about time to get on with the purpose of this forum....to give advice and do it constructively?

Admin, please repost the guidelines of this group. If you cant live with them please leave and let the rest of us help each other.

I've had enough of this garbage lately.

If you cant response to the question, picture or topic and do it constructively....don't do it at all.
Food for thought for each of us. Yes this is photo... (show quote)

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Nov 21, 2018 09:55:26   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
JimBart wrote:
Food for thought for each of us. Yes this is photography related.

This is one reason I question my decision to remain a part of UHH. Practically every single thread or post always end up in a rant or a mess of remarks totally unrelated to the subject at hand. Each person thinking they are better than the previous poster. I thought this forum was meant to be constructive and helpful.

All I see is bickering, running down this person or that, condemning the poster for some unforeseen or unrelated thing, and playing favorites when posting a pic.

Why cant each of us act civil, answer the specific question at hand and overlook the inaccuracies and inadequacies if the individual. We are not all perfect as some believe they are, some of us may have special needs and use photography as a release of the pressures of life, or we are getting older and may be early dementia. We are only looking for help.

Isn't it about time to get on with the purpose of this forum....to give advice and do it constructively?

Admin, please repost the guidelines of this group. If you cant live with them please leave and let the rest of us help each other.

I've had enough of this garbage lately.

If you cant response to the question, picture or topic and do it constructively....don't do it at all.
Food for thought for each of us. Yes this is photo... (show quote)

So.... I can't respond to YOUR condescending, holier than thou post.And do it constructively, Like you are a pillar of decency all others are misbehaving. I personally think "you'll have to go elsewhere for the perfection you REQUIRE! That's just my humble opinion. RJM

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Nov 21, 2018 09:58:46   #
JRD3 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
I think our friend from Michigan has made a valid point. This should be a forum to help and advance our shared craft. Spelling and issues of grammar should be left to the classroom.

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Nov 21, 2018 09:58:56   #
al13
 
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JimBart wrote:
Food for thought for each of us. Yes this is photography related.

This is one reason I question my decision to remain a part of UHH. Practically every single thread or post always end up in a rant or a mess of remarks totally unrelated to the subject at hand. Each person thinking they are better than the previous poster. I thought this forum was meant to be constructive and helpful.

All I see is bickering, running down this person or that, condemning the poster for some unforeseen or unrelated thing, and playing favorites when posting a pic.

Why cant each of us act civil, answer the specific question at hand and overlook the inaccuracies and inadequacies if the individual. We are not all perfect as some believe they are, some of us may have special needs and use photography as a release of the pressures of life, or we are getting older and may be early dementia. We are only looking for help.

Isn't it about time to get on with the purpose of this forum....to give advice and do it constructively?

Admin, please repost the guidelines of this group. If you cant live with them please leave and let the rest of us help each other.

I've had enough of this garbage lately.

If you cant response to the question, picture or topic and do it constructively....don't do it at all.
Food for thought for each of us. Yes this is photo... (show quote)


i am waiting and watching for the negative reply’s. Civility in general appears to have gone to the grave. To those who enjoy spell checking and grammar, Hope I got it right.

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Nov 21, 2018 10:01:27   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
JimBart wrote:
Food for thought for each of us. Yes this is photography related.

This is one reason I question my decision to remain a part of UHH. Practically every single thread or post always end up in a rant or a mess of remarks totally unrelated to the subject at hand. Each person thinking they are better than the previous poster. I thought this forum was meant to be constructive and helpful.

All I see is bickering, running down this person or that, condemning the poster for some unforeseen or unrelated thing, and playing favorites when posting a pic.

Why cant each of us act civil, answer the specific question at hand and overlook the inaccuracies and inadequacies if the individual. We are not all perfect as some believe they are, some of us may have special needs and use photography as a release of the pressures of life, or we are getting older and may be early dementia. We are only looking for help.

Isn't it about time to get on with the purpose of this forum....to give advice and do it constructively?

Admin, please repost the guidelines of this group. If you cant live with them please leave and let the rest of us help each other.

I've had enough of this garbage lately.

If you cant response to the question, picture or topic and do it constructively....don't do it at all.
Food for thought for each of us. Yes this is photo... (show quote)


Ah Jim, UHH can indeed get a little rough and tumble at times with satire, insults and inappropriate comments, but that's life on the internet. My suggestion is, grow a thicker skin, or move along.

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Nov 21, 2018 10:04:12   #
lsaguy Loc: Udall, KS, USA
 
Digit-up, Thanks for providing a perfect example of what the original poster was talking about. I couldn't have done it better.

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Nov 21, 2018 10:07:29   #
A10 Loc: Southern Indiana
 
Civility is almost a lost art. Example: Two days ago my daughter was stopped for a traffic light when an elderly woman ran the light causing an accident which tore off my daughter's front of her car. My daughter was pretty steamed because she has so little and the car means she can drives to her jobs. When she saw the older lady get out of her destroyed car my daughter asked herself how would she want someone to talk with her grandmother at a time like this. Instead of ranting and yelling my daughter comforted this woman and made sure she was OK. I have never been prouder of my daughter for her civility and compassion. We need more people behaving this way.

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Nov 21, 2018 10:08:15   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
lsaguy wrote:
Digit-up, Thanks for providing a perfect example of what the original poster was talking about. I couldn't have done it better.


My only OTHER option would have been to just ignore that posting, as we all (MAYBE) need to do when someone/anyone
says something NOT to our liking> I'm going to start ignoring rude and condescending people a lot more, but I won't leave uhh. RJM

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Nov 21, 2018 10:09:22   #
Old Timer Loc: Greenfield, In.
 
Reply: Food for thought

It does seem that some want to pick a fight on any statement or opinion. A few days ago there was a topic of feeling vulnerable when out shooting by your self as we get older and not so nimble. I responded in how photographers could adapt to different environments and types of photographer and still feel secure. The most responses turned into weapons, pistols, pepper spray and other weapons of self defense. I got two private messages thanking me for my response and alternatives instead of being negative. I do not mind some one disagreeing with me as long as they do not insults my intelligence or pedigree. We do not and should not get personnel or look for a way to insults some one, agree to disagree respectfully and with out insults. When we go down that road I assume some one wants to pull us down in the gutter with them.

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Nov 21, 2018 10:10:10   #
JBruce Loc: Northern MN
 
Jim, I am fairly sure that the responses that you get will confirm what you stated quite well. But a caveat is in order here; many of the folks here seem to be getting older and maybe a bit more opinionated than they realize..or not. But I do agree with what you say and spend much less time on UHH than I did previously, instead choosing to visit the various micro 4/3 sites where the aforementioned attitudes are much less rampant, and civil discourse is the norm. On one site the snarkyness is increasing, and the admin. is putting a clamp on it..so what we see here is not singular. I suppose I will be flamed just as you surely will, but so be it, because I have broad shoulders and have learned to just not respond to snarky. John

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Nov 21, 2018 10:11:24   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
Old Timer wrote:
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It does seem that some want to pick a fight on any statement or opinion. A few days ago there was a topic of feeling vulnerable when out shooting by your self as we get older and not so nimble. I responded in how photographers could adapt to different environments and types of photographer and still feel secure. The most responses turned into weapons, pistols, pepper spray and other weapons of self defense. I got two private messages thanking me for my response and alternatives instead of being negative. I do not mind some one disagreeing with me as long as they do not insults my intelligence or pedigree. We do not and should not get personnel or look for a way to insults some one, agree to disagree respectfully and with out insults. When we go down that road I assume some one wants to pull us down in the gutter with them.
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Nov 21, 2018 10:12:02   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
digit-up wrote:
So.... I can't respond to YOUR condescending, holier than thou post.And do it constructively, Like you are a pillar of decency all others are misbehaving. I personally think "you'll have to go elsewhere for the perfection you REQUIRE! That's just my humble opinion. RJM



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Nov 21, 2018 10:12:27   #
CSand Loc: Fayetteville, Georgia
 
Morning Jim, Join us in the ''close-ups" section. Friendly, kind, supportive folks. Just the pleasure of new friends and photography. Sandy

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