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Nov 10, 2018 08:36:32   #
tommy2 Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
 
fotobyferg wrote:
...it was the Holy Grail of images.


ABSOLUTELY!
That is to me (amateur astronomer/photographer) a fabulous shot!
Thank you for posting.

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Nov 10, 2018 11:34:34   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Lovely sunset.

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Nov 10, 2018 14:38:43   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
Lovely sunset.


Sorry, but I have to ask since you didn't use quote reply and my conversation was pretty much hijacked, is the compliment directed at my photo, which is the best of the conversation, or at one of the other sunset photos others posted?!
If it's mine then thank you, much appreciated.

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Nov 10, 2018 16:46:44   #
JCam Loc: MD Eastern Shore
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Although I've never been a sailor, I can imagine sailing off into a red sunset. Fact, the sun doesn't really set, the horizon rises. Good night...


Nice photo whether you accept the old tale or not.

The saying "Red at Night, sailor's delight" was meant to be advice for the following day, it should be a nice day at sea. The other half about "Red in the morning, Sailors take warning" was a warning about the conditions that could be encountered the next day. Surprisingly when the saying came into use and long before there were reliable forecasts, folklore like this proved itself to be quite accurate. Even today with all our weather reports, a lot of sailors are rightfully cautious about venturing very far off shore with a red morning sky.

That said, I'd much rather trust the instrumentation and forecasts by experts. Think of the un-named hurricane of 1938 that basically wiped out Providence, RI; it hit with almost no warning at all.

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Nov 10, 2018 19:52:05   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
JCam wrote:
Nice photo whether you accept the old tale or not.

The saying "Red at Night, sailor's delight" was meant to be advice for the following day, it should be a nice day at sea. The other half about "Red in the morning, Sailors take warning" was a warning about the conditions that could be encountered the next day. Surprisingly when the saying came into use and long before there were reliable forecasts, folklore like this proved itself to be quite accurate. Even today with all our weather reports, a lot of sailors are rightfully cautious about venturing very far off shore with a red morning sky.

That said, I'd much rather trust the instrumentation and forecasts by experts. Think of the un-named hurricane of 1938 that basically wiped out Providence, RI; it hit with almost no warning at all.
Nice photo whether you accept the old tale or not.... (show quote)


Uh, thanks, maybe...!?

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Nov 10, 2018 19:55:57   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
fotobyferg wrote:
Here it is, taken from a recent Facebook post I made for friends headed back to SL. I am still going to try and locate the original. At the time, I had no idea that to some, catching it was the Holy Grail of images.


Uh, thanks for hijacking my conversation...?!

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Nov 10, 2018 20:19:34   #
tommy2 Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Uh, thanks for hijacking my conversation...?!


Well gee whizz...don’t I get any thanks for asking about his mention of a green flash photo?
Getting down to the subject of post hijacking I consider it a compliment that my posts generate interest on the subject when others want to expand the conversation.

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Nov 11, 2018 00:15:53   #
woodweasel Loc: bellingham Wa
 
Nice capture

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Nov 11, 2018 01:24:59   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
tommy2 wrote:
Well gee whizz...don’t I get any thanks for asking about his mention of a green flash photo?
Getting down to the subject of post hijacking I consider it a compliment that my posts generate interest on the subject when others want to expand the conversation.


I said thanks. But Siriusly (woof,woof), all too many times, maybe three or four, I've posted photos in other people's conversations and got a verbal ass reaming for it. There were also complimentary responses that I didn't know who the recipient was since the responder didn't use quote reply. As for the Green flash photo, I saw a Green Dot... I've seen the Green flash and none of the Green flash photos looked like the Green flash I've actually seen.
I thought my photo was rather nice. Good composition and colors. The orange sky and the dark blue water and the lights on the south bound ship all came together quite well, at least in my mind. This was no snapshot, for sure. On my big screen the photo looks pretty darn good. I believe I will print this one on my Pro-10.
At least I didn't flip out at you or anyone else as has been done to me in the past, oh so long ago.

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Nov 11, 2018 09:53:03   #
tommy2 Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I said thanks. But Siriusly (woof,woof), all too many times, maybe three or four, I've posted photos in other people's conversations and got a verbal ass reaming for it. There were also complimentary responses that I didn't know who the recipient was since the responder didn't use quote reply. As for the Green flash photo, I saw a Green Dot... I've seen the Green flash and none of the Green flash photos looked like the Green flash I've actually seen.
I thought my photo was rather nice. Good composition and colors. The orange sky and the dark blue water and the lights on the south bound ship all came together quite well, at least in my mind. This was no snapshot, for sure. On my big screen the photo looks pretty darn good. I believe I will print this one on my Pro-10.
At least I didn't flip out at you or anyone else as has been done to me in the past, oh so long ago.
I said thanks. But Siriusly (woof,woof), all too m... (show quote)

Well, I'll try to be succinct and reasonably general with my answers (IMHO and in no particular order) to your post included above.
First and foremost I also think your photo is an outstanding photograph as others have said. Second, I don't question responses that don't specifically point to one part of a thread or another. I accept them as a response to my submission since I started the thread. Third - a very important one to me - is I don't respond in like kind to derogatory comments. I take the high road and move on to better comments; however, I don't have a problem calling a spade a spade. Fourth is the photo I referred to as being outstanding (green flash with ship silhouette in the frame) is a text book example! There are very few photos of that caliber in the scientific community. There are very scholarly scientists who write and publish papers on the phenomena of green flashes and that photo is better than most included in those papers!
In conclusion I'd like to say thank you for starting this thread and allowing others to participate in a discussion of the primary subject - green flashes. This is a photography forum and injecting a little scientific info seems to me to be a good thing. However it is your thread and you can do as you please with it so delete, if possible on this forum, anything you don't want to be here. I've learned from experience to just forget about anything not pleasant in my way of being.
Please be assured my homiletics professor at seminary would say that I could write an hour long sermon delving into the level of anguish you have written into your post that I am responding to in this thread.
Thank you, Tommy2

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Nov 11, 2018 13:48:49   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
tommy2 wrote:
Well, I'll try to be succinct and reasonably general with my answers (IMHO and in no particular order) to your post included above.
First and foremost I also think your photo is an outstanding photograph as others have said. Second, I don't question responses that don't specifically point to one part of a thread or another. I accept them as a response to my submission since I started the thread. Third - a very important one to me - is I don't respond in like kind to derogatory comments. I take the high road and move on to better comments; however, I don't have a problem calling a spade a spade. Fourth is the photo I referred to as being outstanding (green flash with ship silhouette in the frame) is a text book example! There are very few photos of that caliber in the scientific community. There are very scholarly scientists who write and publish papers on the phenomena of green flashes and that photo is better than most included in those papers!
In conclusion I'd like to say thank you for starting this thread and allowing others to participate in a discussion of the primary subject - green flashes. This is a photography forum and injecting a little scientific info seems to me to be a good thing. However it is your thread and you can do as you please with it so delete, if possible on this forum, anything you don't want to be here. I've learned from experience to just forget about anything not pleasant in my way of being.
Please be assured my homiletics professor at seminary would say that I could write an hour long sermon delving into the level of anguish you have written into your post that I am responding to in this thread.
Thank you, Tommy2
Well, I'll try to be succinct and reasonably gener... (show quote)


Very interesting response. If the objective was to confuse me, you have succeeded. Not a problem though, a little confusion from time to time can be a constructive thing.
One point though, the conversation was not about the Green flash. Someone asked me if I saw a Green flash; don't know if they were sincere or baiting me, but I explained myself and the photo an replied, no.
I don't know if my responses showed any level of pain I was or am in. Having or even participating in conversations here shouldn't be painful, although sometimes it sure does seem that way.
You may have, or not, noticed I don't use the word thread to describe what's done here. I worked in information technology most of my adult life and to me, thread, represents something to do with data, and I just find that so darn impersonal. I prefer, conversation. As human beings we converse with each other. It's not like data passing between computers and programs. Programs don't share, they do only what they are told to do, usually.
So, did you graduate seminary? We're you ordained?
I use to belong to, well I guess I still do, an ELCA Lutheran Church that we don't attend as often as we use to. I guess I'm still a member because they keep depositing the check my computer sends them weekly. We pretty much stopped attending after they changed pastors and also when certain members made it quite clear it was their Church and there was some sort of psudo hierarchy in the membership. Apparently both pastors traveled some distance from home to church. One pastor traveled from his home in the western suburbs to his church in the inner city. The other traveled from one end of the county to the other. The intercounty traveler was assigned to a new church near his home town. The intercity traveler was assigned to replace the other pastor thus cutting his commute from over an hour to just minutes. It made perfect sense except for the part where the retired business executive decided the timing was perfect for him to fill some imagined void in the governance of the church. Pastoral politics, who woulda thought...?!
There is a question in there, somewhere. Oh yeah; did you learn the difference between preaching and teaching? The pastor who was transferred to his side of the county was a remarkable preacher. His sermons were interesting and captivating and weren't at all, preachy. This was a man who had a gift, the art of communication. Interesting fact, becoming a Lutheran minister had been his life long dream, and his second career. The other guy was ok. He's been a minister for many years and to be honest, I feel some of the passion was gone. It's almost like he forgot the job was more about teaching. Oh well, things change.

Anyway, I like taking pictures and photographs. I like cameras, have since I was a teenager a long time ago. I like good conversation. I may not be as intellectual as many but I'm not a total maroon. I like gear. May not be able to afford the best or even what I really want, but that has never stopped me from reading. Gotta go, things to do that can't be put off until later.

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