rb61
Loc: Maple Grove, MN
I may have posted something related to this earlier in the year, but I now have determined what my problem is.
I have seen that just about any package ( PS, LR, ON1, etc.) will meet my needs based on capabilities. My challenge is that I left the graphics world about 12 years ago. The complexity of the new programs seem overwhelming to this 72 year old guy who is basically starting over.
I am looking for a program that has in-depth instructions/tutorials for beginners- similar to the project instructions that Photoshop had at one time.
Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Almost every of the popular programs have excellent tutorials. They may be accessed from within the program or be produced by independents. Google "tutorials program name" and browse the results.
Corel's Paint Shop Pro has an option that can be very helpful. In addition to many in depth tutorials they have quick tutorials that will pop up every time you use a new tool. Once you are comfortable with that tool you can turn it off.
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Have you considered Adobe Photoshop Elements 2018? Elements is a stand alone post-processing application. No subscription required. Elements has a large, loyal following on the Hedgehog forum. Lots of tutorials and video teaching aids (from large photo gear sources, major reviewers, YouTube, etc.)
Pick your poison as there are several good ones out there. I came from the graphic arts industry as well and did have some experience with Illustrator and Photoshop, but no experience with Lightroom. Bought the Adobe Creative Cloud suite and found a phenomenal amount of good tutorials from Adobe, 3rd party youtubers, and some really good mixed media books (printed book with videos tutorials posted on the internet). Big difference from years ago when you had to have the software developer come into our shop for training.
rb61
Loc: Maple Grove, MN
rjaywallace wrote:
Have you considered Adobe Photoshop Elements 2018? Elements is a stand alone post-processing application. No subscription required. Elements has a large, loyal following on the Hedgehog forum. Lots of tutorials and video teaching aids (from large photo gear sources, major reviewers, YouTube, etc.)
Thanks. it appears as if my Mac OS 10.11 will run this and not the new 2019 version. I am wondering if it is still possible to purchase the 2018 version. One review of 2018 had a link to purchase it but stated that it would take me to the newest version only.
rb61
Loc: Maple Grove, MN
Strodav wrote:
Pick your poison as there are several good ones out there. I came from the graphic arts industry as well and did have some experience with Illustrator and Photoshop, but no experience with Lightroom. Bought the Adobe Creative Cloud suite and found a phenomenal amount of good tutorials from Adobe, 3rd party youtubers, and some really good mixed media books (printed book with videos tutorials posted on the internet). Big difference from years ago when you had to have the software developer come into our shop for training.
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Thanks for the information.
A few decades ago I made the transition from working with main frame SCITEX equipment to becoming an instructor at a graphic arts/printing company. They paid for one-on-one photoshop, desktop drum scanning, font management, etc. training from a private instructor. Ahh, the good old days.
rb61
Loc: Maple Grove, MN
Bill_de wrote:
Almost every of the popular programs have excellent tutorials. They may be accessed from within the program or be produced by independents. Google "tutorials program name" and browse the results.
Corel's Paint Shop Pro has an option that can be very helpful. In addition to many in depth tutorials they have quick tutorials that will pop up every time you use a new tool. Once you are comfortable with that tool you can turn it off.
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Thanks for the information-starting to sound promising.
rb61 wrote:
Thanks. it appears as if my Mac OS 10.11 will run this and not the new 2019 version. I am wondering if it is still possible to purchase the 2018 version. One review of 2018 had a link to purchase it but stated that it would take me to the newest version only.
I’m sure Adobe will work with you by phone to purchase the current or recent version you want. It’s provably not a good idea to purchase the post-processing app via a link as opposed to buying directly from Adobe, especially if you have specific particular concerns. Do you not expect to
ever upgrade your Mac OS? What do you plan to do when Apple stops supporting OS 10.11? What problem do you foresee with 2019 software? PM me if you want to talk about this in more detail. I recently subscribed to the Abobe Photography bundle after resisting a subscription plan for many years. I also use On1 Photo Raw 2018.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
rb61 wrote:
I may have posted something related to this earlier in the year, but I now have determined what my problem is.
I have seen that just about any package ( PS, LR, ON1, etc.) will meet my needs based on capabilities. My challenge is that I left the graphics world about 12 years ago. The complexity of the new programs seem overwhelming to this 72 year old guy who is basically starting over.
I am looking for a program that has in-depth instructions/tutorials for beginners- similar to the project instructions that Photoshop had at one time.
Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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You've only got 4 yrs on me.
Don't make the mistake of buying outdated software. If you want to get the best bang for the buck, stay current.
I would suggest that a simple program is "simple" because it has image degrading limitations. PSE is a subset of Photoshop - so why not just get Photoshop?
There is a plethora of online third party tutorials and videos to help you along. But I will suggest that you consider joining a local photo club, where you will find members at all levels of expertise - from beginner to retired pro - and they will be eager to share their experiences and provide you with a personal learning experience - not to mention field trips, guest speakers, image competitions and other activities.
Some people don't like the direction that the software industry is moving towards - annual subscription vs paying for a license and then paying for annual upgrades. In the long run, the subscription model provides better software for less money and it is constantly being updated and upgraded. The subscription model is regarded as a "negative" when in fact it is neither negative nor positive - it's just another way to pay for a license to use software. The last copy of Photoshop I purchased cost $1000 in 2012, and it cost $150 to upgrade from the previous version. I am thrilled to only pay $120 a year for both Photoshop and Lightroom - it's a bargain compared to what it was 6 yrs ago.
rb61 wrote:
I may have posted something related to this earlier in the year, but I now have determined what my problem is.
I have seen that just about any package ( PS, LR, ON1, etc.) will meet my needs based on capabilities. My challenge is that I left the graphics world about 12 years ago. The complexity of the new programs seem overwhelming to this 72 year old guy who is basically starting over.
I am looking for a program that has in-depth instructions/tutorials for beginners- similar to the project instructions that Photoshop had at one time.
Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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I started using Affinity Photo about 8 months ago and with all the videos available it was not difficult to learn more than the basics. I am a 74 year old guy who was new to photography 3 years ago. Affinity costs $49 and they provide free updates. Serif is the developer and they have MAC and Windows versions.
Take a look at Affinity Photo. It has all you desire, and is much less costly...purchase and own, no monthly charges. You can try it before purchasing. I love it!
Check out Luminar - it's inexpensive, easy to learn and powerful.
rb61 wrote:
I may have posted something related to this earlier in the year, but I now have determined what my problem is.
I have seen that just about any package ( PS, LR, ON1, etc.) will meet my needs based on capabilities. My challenge is that I left the graphics world about 12 years ago. The complexity of the new programs seem overwhelming to this 72 year old guy who is basically starting over.
I am looking for a program that has in-depth instructions/tutorials for beginners- similar to the project instructions that Photoshop had at one time.
Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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I'm 75. My wife takes a ton of pictures. Me, not so much. She has all that stuff. I use her laptop when I take pictures. It's not hard. You can get mired in all the Manisha and go crazy or checkout out Adobe help or Youtube. It's just a bunch of sliders. Then as you progress it becomes easier.
rb61 wrote:
I may have posted something related to this earlier in the year, but I now have determined what my problem is.
I have seen that just about any package ( PS, LR, ON1, etc.) will meet my needs based on capabilities. My challenge is that I left the graphics world about 12 years ago. The complexity of the new programs seem overwhelming to this 72 year old guy who is basically starting over.
I am looking for a program that has in-depth instructions/tutorials for beginners- similar to the project instructions that Photoshop had at one time.
Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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There are simply tons of videos on YouTube. The most difficult task is to pick an edit tool/suite that meets your needs. And from one that is older. age is not a factor unless your trying haul around heavy gear. :) Most of these videos spoon feed the viewer. Which one you choose is more related to how much you plan to edit. I know, most say I only ant to do x,y,z and then soon discover they want a,b,c and their tool does not do it. Find one that allows to grow.
You will get lots of opinions on various packages. My bias in LR/PS. LR is quite strong an can do for 90-100% of your work. With PS sitting in the same package. you can cherry pick the advanced functions that LR does not do well.
Good luck!
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