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Apr 22, 2020 15:35:31   #
Photoshark Loc: Oregon
 
Try using a lower aperture. I've eliminated that by shootin A priority at 2.8

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May 18, 2020 20:30:57   #
Sdubois Loc: Narragansett RI
 
You are right and the filter system I have is next to worthless.. I opted for the 17-25mm F/4 You can mount filters on it and it's sharp

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May 18, 2020 20:31:53   #
Sdubois Loc: Narragansett RI
 
The only problem with shooting at large apertures is no sun beams.

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Jun 9, 2020 16:26:49   #
AdamJB
 
Here is how I eliminate ghosts and flare when shooting into the sun, works for any lens, any camera:

1) Take identical two exposures of the same scene, but in one exposure, hold a finger in front of the lens to block the sun from view.
2) Open both images in Photoshop and align them.
3) Put the image with the exposed sun on top of the stack. This is the image exhibiting ghosts/flare.
4) Add an inverse (black layer mask) to the image with the flare.
5) Paint on the layer mask with a big white soft brush to reveal the sun and hide your finger.

This works every time. 100% eliminates the ghosts and flare, preserving better contrast. It sounds like a lot of work, but you get pretty quick at it after you do it a few times.

When you shoot this way, make sure you are in full manual. If you are in Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, or have Auto ISO enabled, the exposure will change when you put your finger over the sun.

You can do this with or without a tripod. If you are shooting handheld, the framing will be slightly different between the shots, but Photoshop's auto align will take care of that for you at the expense of a small crop.

I've attached an example:
Picture #1: Original photo, with some serious ghosts and some loss of contrast due to flare
Picture #2: The photo where I blocked the sun with my finger
Picture #3: Merged photo using the first two


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Jun 9, 2020 18:12:03   #
weberwest Loc: Ferndale WA
 
Thank you Adam, neat trick, got to remember and try that! BTW - nice picture!

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Jun 9, 2020 21:00:48   #
AdamJB
 
Thanks! If you do try it, I'll be interested to see the results.

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Jul 13, 2020 14:23:21   #
Sdubois Loc: Narragansett RI
 
Gitchigumi wrote:
Did you have a filter on the lens? Could the flare be coming from that? Shooting into the sun certainly presents challenges.

No I have a filter for it but it wasn’t mounted

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Jul 13, 2020 14:24:38   #
Sdubois Loc: Narragansett RI
 
AdamJB wrote:
Here is how I eliminate ghosts and flare when shooting into the sun, works for any lens, any camera:

1) Take identical two exposures of the same scene, but in one exposure, hold a finger in front of the lens to block the sun from view.
2) Open both images in Photoshop and align them.
3) Put the image with the exposed sun on top of the stack. This is the image exhibiting ghosts/flare.
4) Add an inverse (black layer mask) to the image with the flare.
5) Paint on the layer mask with a big white soft brush to reveal the sun and hide your finger.

This works every time. 100% eliminates the ghosts and flare, preserving better contrast. It sounds like a lot of work, but you get pretty quick at it after you do it a few times.

When you shoot this way, make sure you are in full manual. If you are in Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, or have Auto ISO enabled, the exposure will change when you put your finger over the sun.

You can do this with or without a tripod. If you are shooting handheld, the framing will be slightly different between the shots, but Photoshop's auto align will take care of that for you at the expense of a small crop.

I've attached an example:
Picture #1: Original photo, with some serious ghosts and some loss of contrast due to flare
Picture #2: The photo where I blocked the sun with my finger
Picture #3: Merged photo using the first two
Here is how I eliminate ghosts and flare when shoo... (show quote)

Awesome idea will do that on my Astro shots with a lighthouse as well

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Jun 13, 2021 22:23:40   #
peekaboo
 
Next time why don't you eigther slightly left or right which will have the sun slightly off center and see if that 'll help. That's what I do.

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Jul 7, 2021 10:24:30   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Sdubois wrote:
Pardon the cheap Halloween reference.

Hi All,
For the following image I used a Nikon D850 with a Nikkor 14-24 ISO100 f/14 1/160sec. Is there a better lens that has less lens flare? is there a technique I can use to reduce it?
I read somewhere that the 20mm f/1.8 has very little flare.
Here is the image that would have been much better without the flare.

New lens, filter or a lens hood. or anything else. the only way to eliminate flare is to not shoot directly into the sun Meanwhile this is a nice photo. Sometimes flare can be used creatively to make a shot more interesting

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Jul 26, 2021 14:05:01   #
Brokenland
 
This lens has been known to cause lens flaring. Ways to avoid this is zoom in or out to look beyond the flare, change the angle of your approach, Meaning move around as to look beyond the flare, change the direction of your lens, use a lens hood or consider a better lens that's not been known to this type of flaring.

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Aug 16, 2021 20:34:31   #
thomasm650 Loc: SF Bay Area
 
i went to a wedding recently and noticed one of the camera crew was frequently shooting into the sun. Her lens shade was attached to the lens, but was reversed, and not over the glass element. When I questioned her about the potential for flare, she replied, "I like flare."

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Oct 13, 2021 23:40:49   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
I vaguely remember my photography instructor telling the class how to get lens flare and she said to take the shot with as small of f stop as possible. Your f stop was 14 which is a pretty small opening for your lens. It seems logical to me that if you DON'T want lens flare, then you should shoot with the largest f opening of your lens.

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Oct 13, 2021 23:41:38   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
I vaguely remember my photography instructor telling the class how to get lens flare and she said to take the shot with as small of f stop as possible. Your f stop was 14 which is a pretty small opening for your lens. It seems logical to me that if you DON'T want lens flare, then you should shoot with the largest f opening of your lens.

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Oct 15, 2021 01:25:43   #
Alphabravo2020
 
Doesn't most flare come from the aperture blades? I understood that an even number of aperture blades will cause fewer points on the flare since they will overlap. An odd number of blades will have double the number of points. So flares from OP's 9 bladed aperture will have 18 points which seems to match his photo.

Also if the the shape of the blade is more circular then there is less tendency to flare. And lens flare is manifested/exaggerated? at small apertures.

If you drop ISO to 64 and use, say, a 3 stop ND filter, then you can open the aperture all they way up. Everything in the frame will be beyond the hyperfocal distance and your flares will go away. That would be a good test anyway. Photos at larger aperture exhibit more lens characteristics and are less sterile if that is your thing.

BrentHarder wrote:
I vaguely remember my photography instructor telling the class how to get lens flare and she said to take the shot with as small of f stop as possible. Your f stop was 14 which is a pretty small opening for your lens. It seems logical to me that if you DON'T want lens flare, then you should shoot with the largest f opening of your lens.


Yes.

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